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My 914 2.0 with standard body has the 4 hole Pedrinis. I would like to fit 5 hole fuchs and go as wide as possible without making any changes to the body. You know what parts I need adapters or.. and what 5 whole Fuchs will fit my car? The picture is how i would like my car to look.
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I can't answer that one.

I opened a post in our forums. A Pelican community member may be able to answer your question.


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The various methods for going to five-lug wheels are discussed here: Pelican Technical Article: 914 Five Bolt Pattern Conversion Guide

I really feel that adapters are the wrong way to go, personally. I believe in driving 914s hard (possibly foolishly so!) and that the four-to-five adapters are questionable in those circumstances. Plus my local club says you can't get on the track (not even for autocross!) with them.

Wheel size is not the only factor in what fits under stock fenders. Tire size and wheel offset play a large role, and alignment specs and the fender lip itself play smaller ones. (Early 914s had a full-size fender lip in the rear; in 73 or so the lip was trimmed shorter.) That said, almost all 914s can fit 195-width tires on 6" wheels from a 911 (up through 88, at least). Most should be able to fit 205s on the 6" wheels, if they have some negative camber. A very few can fit 205s on 7" wheels, and practically none can fit anything wider without at least slight modifications to the body. Note that in some cases folding the rear fender lip flat against the body might be required, even in the later cars which have the shorter lip!

The 914 is a somewhat hand-built car, and the exact dimensions vary from car to car. Most cars will have less room in one rear fender or the other, and the rear is where the real fitment problems are.

Note that most 195-width and wider tires will rub slightly on the inner front fender aft of the strut when the steering wheel is turned full-lock. That is not much of a concern for most people, as those extreme wheel angles are generally only done when the car is at very low speeds. But it might be an issue for some people, especially where inspection is very strict and very thorough.

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6x15" Fuchs are readily available and fit nicely. There are also some reproduction gas burner (Mahle) wheels that look nice on a 914, or even the original steel wheels in 5 1/2x15". I have 195/65-15 tires on my 914-6 and they fit fine (and should on just about any 914). As Dave wrote, every car may be slightly different, but the above should be a safe combination.

I think Eric Shea @ PMB sells a complete conversion setup, but if you shop around, you can find some used front 911 struts and have the rear hubs re drilled for five lug wheels.
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6x15 cookie cutters will also fit. 7x15 cookies are more readable (they were the base 944 wheel), but as Dave mentioned, you may have to fuss with fender lips and camber settings for them to fit in the rear.

Looks like the car in the picture has 7x15 fuchs.

If you don't want to go through the cost/expense of 5-bolt conversion, there are some good looking period options in 4-bolt like miilites: http://minilite.co.uk/ or Superlite wheels http://www.allwheels.com.au/home.php?cat=250
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Those wheels on the sample pic car look too big for 15's,the OP makes no mention of the size he wants to use.
Keep the info coming,I'am going to 16'' 6 & 7's and so I'am keen to know how to shim the rear suspension could assist in getting a little more clearance,happy to roll the fender lips but not pull the fenders out.
Maybe over to DD on this one............
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The 7s will be tight. If you really want to use them, you're going to have to try them and see how they fit. If the top of the wheel rubs on the outer fender (likely), and you have room between the tire and the inner fender (possible), then you can fudge things by dialing in more negative camber--removing the camber shims at the outboard end of the trailing arm pivot or substituting thinner ones.

Again, the 914s all vary a bit. So you may have no trouble with 205s on 7" wheels, or you may only have a little trouble. But there is at least one case where someone machined the bearing mount in the trailing arm to move the bearing in slightly (1/4" maybe??) to fit that combination on his car. And many others have had to pull their fenders out at least a bit for that.

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Thanks for the reply Dave sure that will help the OP as well,correct in saying about variations,did an extended search and some said all fine and others mention fitment problems but the consensus appears to be a differance in lh and rh fender clearance,funny have noted that on some later more modern cars also.
Have a profile drawing for the shims so can make some to suit,quess there would be some incresed tyre wear but my car won't be a daily driver so not stressing about that.
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Dave is spot on. Do it correctly or do not do it. 15" Fuchs wheels will fit and the most popular is the deep six (15x6) wheel. It is period correct and look perfect on these cars. Eric Shea at PMB Performance http://www.pmbperformance.com/catalog.html is the one stop source to handle all of the parts you will need as well as the advice. Good luck and have fun.

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