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The VIN can be found both on a plate on the LH side bottom of the windshield, and also on the RH side strut tower stamped into the sheetmetal.
Engine # is on the back of the block, below coil, by the timing window on the bellhousing... not usually visible without cleaning... |
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http://www.porsche-club.ru/Tech/repair/Haines/0_Chapter.htm Most cars have the VIN in the same spot. They're not tough to find. At the very least, buy yourself a Haynes manual so you know something about what you own. When you find the VIN, enter it here - http://www.924board.org/register/vindec.html The engine code is on the block next to the flywheel window to set ignition timing. Put your eyeball over the coil and look straight down, you won't be far away from it. Regardless, this car is a fake. Although pretty well done. First of all, no 937's were produced with a sunken windshield. Anyone who says differently is uninformed. Second, if that was resprayed white, then the painter did an unbelievably good job considering they even got a nice gloss on the battery shelf underneath the windshield and they did an amazing masking job around the firewall insulation. The black you see under the white paint is the color of the factory primer. This car was painted white from the factory. Third, the front bumper/valence does not match what is found on factory GT's. Why in the world would you take someone's word when buying a car and not confirm the easily found factory stamped numbers??? A non-running 931 is generally not worth a whole lot (at least in the states, they're worth practically nothing). An engine rebuild could run from around $600 if you only need standard rings/bearings. Or easily $2k+ if the pistons have ovaled or the cylinders need bored or the crank needs turned, etc. That isn't including labor which would likely run around another $2k. Still, not hugely expensive. Add on $400-600 for a turbo rebuild too. Then add on the price for a new fuel pump, rebuilt fuel dizzy, rebuilt warm-up regulator, and any other fuel parts that need replacing. By the looks of it, this car has been sitting for a long time and the fuel system will need a complete overhaul. Drain the fuel tank while you're at it. All of the rubber hoses will likely need replacing. And I can see the worn out front strut bearings in the pics. That's just a start to get it running. Whether or not you think it's worth it is probably up to you and the market. It is a good fake, but it will never pull the premium of an original . Good luck. |
Hey nickd - ever think about being a motivational speaker??
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:) Yeah, sorry for the gloom & doom!
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Why would the factory paint a fake?
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Heh Nickd,
excuse the ignorance and i mean this honestly, is there no chance this car was one of the original 6 white factory prototypes? I do not know much about them only that there were 6 (i think) original cars done by the factory in white. Easily resolved by checking engine and vin no as the 6 white cars were Chassis numbers: WPOZZZ93BN70 0001 to 0006 Prototypes Raj911j check the numbers and answer the million dollar question |
Looking at the front bumper, the area around the license plate is different than the CGT's I have seen. All others I have seen have a slightly smaller area for the license plate that doesn't get as close to touching the bottom vent lip.
If this isn't a real CGT whoever did it took their time (at one point). Most CGT replicas don't install the front side markers. |
Umm, the factory wouldn't paint a fake. But they would paint a 931 shell as it rolled off the line.
The color could make it a prototype. I don't know if any of them were made RHD, but I would be a little surprised. Still doesn't explain the windshield and front end. And how many prototype Porsches have been "barn finds"? It wasn't sitting in a garage next to a dusty #904-003 and 906-004 was it? :) I'm guessing the side-markers are required in Singapore as they are in RoW. Not a big surprise for it to have them. |
Hi Nickd,
Thanks for the information. Kinda upsetting, but I guess I would rather know. Probably relied too much on the words of others when buying the car. On the other hand, I was going to buy it regardless :). Lack of time on my part was probably to blame. Anyway, no use crying over spilt milk I guess. Still a nice looking car. Will be travelling over the next 2 days, will get the vins as soon as I can. Thanks again all. Prithvi |
I look forward to seeing how this develops. VINs will tell all...
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Looks like the car has the GTS front bumper cover.
Another thing to note is that it has the correct rear bumper for the car. The 924GT's rear bumper is a euro type but is not a flush mount like the other 924 and 944 euro rears. So if it is a replica, it was well done atleast. |
2 days till we know the answer, i dont know if i can handle the suspense?
Hope it is real that will make it a great find. |
For the price he paid .....what 1.5x the cost of a standard 931.....he couldn't have gone wrong. The car looks fantastic!!
The next 2 days will be tough for me too....haha |
heh Prithvi,
2 days are up you cant keep us in suspense anymore!! Did you have a chance to check vin and engine numbers yet?? |
Heh Prithvi any updates on the vin and engine no
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The silence is incriminating ;)
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Heh Prithvi did you find out the car was a real prototype and you haven't recovered from the shock yet or is it a 924 turbo with a kit carrera gt kit on and you are trying to hold back the tears.
All in all it looks like a great car either way and if you got it for a good price and you are happy thats all that counts. keep us updated please |
Prithvi your killing us here, whats the verdict
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Any more news on this car? I love barn finds like these...my guess is that it's real, perhaps a prototype. Would a prototype have a normal 924 Turbo VIN? I bet it would since they probably just plucked it out of the assembly line.
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Prithvi please update us on your find the suspense is killing me
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