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I was letting the clutch out gently and was just getting on the gas (~5mph) when I shuttered and blew white smoke and then died. My wife was in the car with me and can attest. I guess I was driving it too easy
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06-20-2008, 11:47 AM
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Speedy,
I think your car had supernatural powers and thought since you werent driving her hard, she thought she was stolen and driven by another and self-distructed...but seriously. My condolences on your engine. I'm glad my engine donor will go into your NA and breathe new life again.
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06-20-2008, 01:49 PM
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Thanks Chi. Hopefully I can get it back on the road quickly.
Speedy
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What on earth is that (all the metal chunks)? Did a ring break and do the damage? Or is it just a chunk of the top of the piston? It's kinda tough to tell looking at the pix. It's not the valves.
And that's a helluva crack in the cylinder wall. Jeeze....
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wow............................................... ...
I would expect to see pictures like that to follow; "...after doing doughnuts for 20 minutes I dragged a blown civic then I noticed my water temp was off the gauge after 3 7500rpm shifts, on a side note my warning light doesn't work....." That sucks, have never seen a liner explode like that. Put a new motor in it, don't part it. Remember: Don't crush it, restore it! ;-)
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06-20-2008, 05:12 PM
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A little JB Weld in there, you should be good to go
   This is the first one I have heard for these engines to just up and die.... Sorry to hear, but glad that you have a solution waiting in the wings. Keith
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06-20-2008, 05:20 PM
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Am I seeing this right? are those chunks of the cylinder wall?
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06-20-2008, 05:45 PM
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i wouldn't of believed it myself and I had my wife with me. No civic involved
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Is that picture showing a dropped valve seat? OMG... that is serious destruction. Can you post a few close ups of the head? BTW, if #2 had the messed up spark plug, is there any explanation in there?
One time, about 15 years ago, one of my spark plugs lost the electrode. I pulled the plug out and the electrode was missing. I had a friend haul me to autozone, bought a new plug and popped it in the car and finished my next run. Oh yeah, I was at an autocross at the time about 100 miles from home. And I was 16, and it was my dad's car at the time... needless to say, I was worried that I would not be able to get the stains out of my shorts. Now "Speedy" (I named it that when I was 11 so leave me alone) is all mine so I get to deal with all the problems
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I will try to take some more detailed pictures.... Speedy
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holy elemental hell batman, there's aluminum everywhere in there!
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06-20-2008, 10:07 PM
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Wow, Now im afraid to take my old engine apart to see destruction like that. I know I spun a bearing before, so mine had a reason to go, but yours just going( and in the same way too) is kinda odd. Shaking, a noise, and the whole car shuts off.
Worst feeling in the world.
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Speedy,
Pictures and posts are great. Looking closely at the head picture(s), there was serious head gasket deterioration going on.  Thanks for the updates and pictures. John_AZ |
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High Compression=too much of a good thing?
Not trying to be a party pooper, but seeing as how you'd mentioned that your compression readings were all so high and consistent... highest dyno test, etc. - I'm wondering if this was too much of a good thing? That perhaps an engine this old is simply not capable of holding such compression/hp without a greater risk of catastrophic failure? Anybody out there want to comment on this?
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OMFG!!
I haven't seen any motor blow like that in a long time! I guess you can be happy that it happened close to home, and not oh, say, 3/4 of the way to Indiana for the gathering! Honestly though, I have never seen a 944 engine die that particular death! "You have the technology, you can rebuild it, make it better, make it stronger" -Nick
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Oh man, sorry to see this.... that is some major damage.
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My original idea was to ITB the 944S 16 valve with MegaSquirtII and dump it into the '83 But I have too many projects going on right now plus full time engineering school plus work plus 2 hours worth of commuting plus family plus old farm. It has just been a crappy week. My wife got a lay-off letter. The porsche died. My wife's pregnant goat just died and the washing machine just exploded and put a hole in the brand new wall I just repaired. Life is sucking pretty bad right now. 
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My 951
My 83 NA
944 Turbo
