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Rebel911 01-23-2010 03:09 AM

Thanks for the picture. I will have to arch the brace over.

mkingham 01-24-2010 08:57 AM

Harrop ITB intake option
 
Hi Rebel911,
I have a solution that will allow you to keep your bracing. You could use a Harrop ITB intake. Rather than pulling the air from the (now) back of the engine, they pull from the top (in 8 places) Many people report that ITBs allow much greater cam profiles while maintaining a smooth idle as well as better throttle response.

But hold onto your wallet, they are very pricey.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1264355815.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1264355833.jpg

Packy 01-24-2010 10:27 AM

Hello, I would like you ITBs please. Yes, do you take Visa or Gold Bullion?

Rebel911 01-24-2010 01:17 PM

or this

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...mages/7139.jpg

Rebel911 01-27-2010 03:25 AM

This might work also. looks like a better solution than RH's short radius 90.

http://www.streetsideauto.com/send_b...290&Save=False

http://www.streetsideauto.com/images...ledMustang.jpg

* Weight: 5.3 LB
* Height: 6.5in.
* Width: 6.81in.
* Depth: 13.5in.

or
LOW AND ULTRA LOW INTAKE ELBOWS
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...ages/38483.jpg

Rebel911 01-27-2010 05:04 AM

found a good fit

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...edl-3847_w.jpg

Rebel911 01-29-2010 04:16 PM

just picked up the Porsche from http://www.rspeed.org/forums/avatars...ine=1255055559

Dan did better than I could have imagined. He is going to brace the front and run through the firewall to the door bars before it is fully finished.

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...AD3665/1-3.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...AD3665/2-3.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...AD3665/3-3.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...AD3665/4-2.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/AAD3665/14.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...AD3665/6-2.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...AD3665/7-2.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...AD3665/5-2.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...AD3665/9-1.jpg

Rebel911 01-29-2010 04:17 PM

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/AAD3665/15.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/AAD3665/16.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/AAD3665/12.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...D3665/11-1.jpg

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...D3665/10-1.jpg

Rebel911 03-27-2010 01:35 PM

all that is left is to lift the car 30 inches and slide it in.

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269724895

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269724919

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269724876

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269724877

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269724887

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269724888

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269724890

the 1st German part bolted onto the engine... and it didn't burst into flames...

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269724891

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269724895

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269724895

Rebel911 03-28-2010 02:29 PM

Kinda a ***** to get the engine with one person... but it's in.



PLEASE NOTE THIS IS JUST THE TEST FIT

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813717

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813719

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813720

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813721

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813722

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269814014

The cage allowed for me to make a strap winch system to work the engine into the transmission evenly. nice and smooth.


http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269814077

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813723

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813726

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813725

Rebel911 03-28-2010 02:30 PM

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813726

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813731

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813731

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813732

it still has to go up about 4 inches. I have a small clearance issue to take care of later when I am fresh and relaxed.


http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813732

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813733

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269813734

unclebilly 03-28-2010 04:16 PM

Here is a trick for installing / removing engines...

Put your car on your trailer and let the rear end hang off of the back of the trailer. You barely have to jack the car and it puts everything at a nice height for working on it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1269820874.jpg

Russian hat and forklift are optional.

mkingham 03-29-2010 06:03 AM

how I installed the engine
 
Congratulations on getting the engine in. For what it is worth, I put the engine and tranny in as a unit. I also had installed the headers before placing the engine. I had to 'trial fit' about three times before I got the brackets all lined up, by the third time, I had it down to a science. (3 floor jacks did the trick for me) Two under each control arm and one to position the nose of the tranny as I slid it under the car.

I'm still not sure how the intake is going to clear the brace between the shock mounts. Are you going to position the engine so the intake is above the brace?

Mike

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1269871359.jpg

Rebel911 03-29-2010 11:37 AM

Right now my problem is the "f" brackets on the front of the engine. the water inlet and outlet.
they are going to hit the rear cross member.
I didn't pull the tranny out so that should be lined up right. engine is mounted right on the tranny but it is still hitting in the rear.

any ideas?

I am going to cut and re-weld the cross brace in-front of the throttle body.

lin7310948 03-29-2010 12:20 PM

install
 
im with mike. i would install the motor and transmission as a unit and not try to leave the trans in place. my engine is a sbc with a shortbell 930 transaxle and i have no trouble with the install as far as the front to rear distance. i do not have a rear facing throttle body but that should be easy to correct. you might also do a search where forum members have modified the transaxle shifting opening to allow the motor and transaxle to be lifted straight up into place. good luck.

Rebel911 03-29-2010 01:48 PM

will do thanks for the advise.

mkingham 03-30-2010 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebel911 (Post 5265016)
Right now my problem is the "f" brackets on the front of the engine. the water inlet and outlet.
they are going to hit the rear cross member.
I didn't pull the tranny out so that should be lined up right. engine is mounted right on the tranny but it is still hitting in the rear.
any ideas?

Hi Rebel911, how much space do you have between the block and the rear cross member? Can you upload a photo?

Rebel911 03-30-2010 05:37 AM

Here are some pictures. any ideas?

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269955344

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1269956230

Rebel911 03-30-2010 05:39 AM

just looking at the second one again; i could possibly remove the 90's and put them back on after it is lifted up.
or even just take off the "f" bracket completely then put it back on.

lin7310948 03-30-2010 07:34 AM

install
 
i am assuming that you have not mated the trans and the motor in this last picture. i believe that i would remove the transaxle and and install on the motor and then install as a unit. hate to keep harping on this but i have found that this is a much easier way to put in place. how much clearance do you have at the torsion bar tube. my chassis is a 71 and i had to modify the transmission mounting plate and move the transaxle approximately 1 inch forward on the mount and hence the motor is located similarly. you might have to remove the throttlebody on the rear and install once the motor is in place.


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