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[shreddr]

Originally Posted by "A"

Good news for mid-drive, no chain:

https://newatlas.com/bicycles/valeo...3YUTHUoJr9L1RxnnQmuZXZ4JHiyaKjz8ogSU1Weak1 dzQ

This is certainly interesting, and I assume it's a SS. My personal experience with both ebikes and SS is that it may not be an ideal match. You gotta keep ebikes at the optimum cadence ~70-90 rpm to maximize the assist. When you start grinding it out on the ebikes the benefit is not as easily felt. I'm thinking the SS may be like this unless you just ride on the flat.

["A"]

Not a SS, Valeo combines an ebike motor and an automatic gearbox in one unit

https://newatlas.com/bicycles/valeo-ebike-motor-automatic-gearbox/?fbclid=IwAR1GsEMs7PGPrL3YUTHUoJr9L1RxnnQmuZXZ4JHi yaKjz8ogSU1Weak1dzQ

[shreddr]

Originally Posted by "A"

Not a SS, Valeo combines an ebike motor and an automatic gearbox in one unit

https://newatlas.com/bicycles/valeo-ebike-motor-automatic-gearbox/?fbclid=IwAR1GsEMs7PGPrL3YUTHUoJr9L1RxnnQmuZXZ4JHi yaKjz8ogSU1Weak1dzQ

I didn't realize it was an automatic. The rapidly advancing ebike technology reminds me of the suspension revolution of the 90's. It's only going to get better brothers!

[TX_Biker_Scum]

If they get advanced enough, they might not require pedalling anymore.

[vtguy]

I cannot make out tire size on that bike, but looks like a mullet. Ti frame? Very poor choice in pedals, though.

[ckcarr]

Devil's advocate on eBikes.

I must be missing something with the eBikes. Where is the exercise factor? Where is the consistent pedaling, and elevated heart rate? I thought that was a major intent of bicycling, particularly as you get older. Why not just get a Honda Monkey or a TW200?

There's already eBike rentals available in this town. Now there's tourists going 30 mph in a 15, blowing stop signs, running out of power in the back country...

Seems the eBike is just letting those that should have a little motorcycle training to simply zoom all over with zero experience or training.


Is the Schwinn one any good? Because I'm a Schwinn guy.....

[Kevin8]

Originally Posted by ckcarr

Devil's advocate on eBikes.

I must be missing something with the eBikes. Where is the exercise factor? Where is the consistent pedaling, and elevated heart rate? I thought that was a major intent of bicycling, particularly as you get older. Why not just get a Honda Monkey or a TW200?

There's already eBike rentals available in this town. Now there's tourists going 30 mph in a 15, blowing stop signs, running out of power in the back country...

Seems the eBike is just letting those that should have a little motorcycle training to simply zoom all over with zero experience or training.


Is the Schwinn one any good? Because I'm a Schwinn guy.....

I have an acoustic bike, as they are now called, and I bought an ebike a few months ago. I can't seem to find the interest in using the acoustic bike much anymore. Maybe it will wear off, but I doubt it: I am more motivated to ride harder, longer, and farther on my ebike. I am burning more calories and having more fun doing it. My heart rate gets up and stays up. A good ebike AMPLIFIES your power, it doesn't replace it. I can commute and use a little more assist and get a light workout, and still be fresh for the office. I can carry 50 lbs. of groceries and not use a car or any gasoline. If I want to ride to visit a friend and they live 20 miles away, I don't hesitate to take my bike and know I can get there and back without dying.....and again not use any gas.

There have been a number of articles citing data that shows that ebikers ride more often, go greater distances, and burn more calories due to increased usage vs. acoustic bike riders. I'm nearly 55 and I don't care for riding in the cold and the wind, but now with my ebike, I was motivated to purchase cold-weather riding clothes and now I'm oblivious to the wind, and can survive the cold. I never, ever considered Winter riding before my ebike.

It's been a game changer for me. If you are happy on your acoustic bike(s), then it's not for you, but never say never! Your time may come.

["A"]

I have been cycling commute in NYC since 2014, 8-12 mile one-way, most of the time in congested NYC traffic among cars.
I am used to riding among cars in traffic, hopping onto the sidewalk or going against the flow on one-way streets, just to avoid crazy drivers.
I ride my e-bike not because I want a workout, just want to pedal to places without breaking a sweat and in need of a shower when I get to my destination.
Sometimes, I carry a good amount of food that require refrigeration, (food donation to local homeless shelter) need to get to my destination quickly so the food doesn't spoil, e-bike helps me cut through NYC traffic, no worry about parking in NYC.
Besides the folding e-bike, I have a regular folding bike that allow me to take it onto the subway train when I'm not hauling large volume of items on the bike.
For workouts I pedal regular bicycles, right from my driveway without driving & transporting my bicycle to another place to ride, road or mt. bike.
Especially during COVID times, I don't want to ride on trails that have other people that I don't know where they've been, huffing & puffing while doing my workout... or worse, get hurt and have to go to a hospital.

[ckcarr]

Just asking for opinions! So far they all make sense. A woman I work with wants one for the same reason. However, I then also want to ask her "Why not a scooter?" But eBikes are a lot lighter, don't need licensing, can bring into your office....

They're going to become the ATV of the bike world in a few years...

[BikerMiker]

I've been eyeballing this one:

https://www.biktrix.com/pages/ultra-eagle-details

I like that it doesn't have oversized tires and it's mid-drive but.... maybe I want oversized tires ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ?

Anyone with opinions on those who ride off road and on road?

[vtguy]

Ebikes are awesome. It does not matter what you ride, but if you ride.
They get the non-cyclist out there, partners can keep up with other half, health issues can be relieved or improved. I am an avid mountain biker and ride with a guy who is older who is in need of knee replacements. He is putting it off because with Ebikes he can still ride.
I have met several former, morbidly obese people who are healthy again because of Ebikes. Met one diabetic who has improved dramatically because of his Ebike.
I do not have one myself, but if had more space, time and money, I would. My choice would be a commuter style/cargo bike.
@BikerMiker, oversized tires is my choice for mtb riding. 2.8-, 27.5. I really enjoy the added traction and added stability. To me it feels like a wide 29er, not quite, but close.
That is my .02 cents.

[BikerMiker]

Originally Posted by vtguy

@BikerMiker, oversized tires is my choice for mtb riding. 2.8-, 27.5. I really enjoy the added traction and added stability. To me it feels like a wide 29er, not quite, but close.
That is my .02 cents.

I see a lot of 4" wide tire bikes being peddled out there (haha i got jokes) and I'm skeptical of their benefits vs looks.

[Kevin8]

Originally Posted by BikerMiker

I've been eyeballing this one:

https://www.biktrix.com/pages/ultra-eagle-details

I like that it doesn't have oversized tires and it's mid-drive but.... maybe I want oversized tires ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ?

Anyone with opinions on those who ride off road and on road?

I have a Rize RX, which rolls on 2.75" tires. I think it's a fine compromise for trail/road riding without all the extra mass that the 4" tires represent. I'm not planning on beach or snow riding, so I didn't feel the bigger tires were getting me anything but more weight. The same bike with 4" tires is 6 lbs heavier. You have to know what your plans are with the bike, but I do believe that 4" tires are overkill for most riders and unecessary.

["A"]

2.75" vs 4" tires depending on your usage, your terrain, whether or not you want suspension on your bike, or more efficient on pavement.

I have 2.75" width tires e-bike for my inner city riding, 95% on pavement, no particular need for soaking up road shock or loose gravel.
Operate at higher speed on pavement, but still under 25 mph.
In my NYC commute among congested traffic, 25 mph is plenty fast between cars & buses.


I have other e-bikes with 4"tires, better suited for off pavement riding. Better stability for older riders that are coming back to bicycling.
More of a plush ride for better comfort if you're not used to wearing padded bicycle shorts for hours.


Weight difference between the two tires/wheels isn't much of a difference unless you have weak motor output, or if you want to travel at high speed (20-25 mph) most of the time.
Which could be very dangerous on the trails, especially during COVID times when most folks avoid trips to the hospital.

Getting too old for this:
https://youtu.be/jyk3eUQW8PQ

[vtguy]

4 inch width tires or more are meant for riding in snow. Benefits are flotation and traction. And if you plan on trail riding in variable conditions, a studded set is nice to have.

[shreddr]

Here’s a good deal. I like the Shimano STEPS system

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/full-suspension-mountain-bikes/ebikes-hal-eboost-team-electric-mountain-bikes.htm


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[tomvv11]

My son was lead mechanic at a high end all-ebike store in Seattle for a couple years. All their rigs had Bosch or Yamaha power units. Pedal-assist rather than full power. The line the salesfolks used was, "This is not a substitute for an electric wheelchair."
My son described it as riding a tandem with a gorilla pedaling behind you. A tailwind at your fingertips.

[shreddr]

I like to say that ebikes are prophetic not prosthetic


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["A"]

Somber news in cycling:

https://www.outsideonline.com/2419837/2020-cycling-death-obituaries


The US wasn't equipped for 2020's cycling boom.
Its failures stem from a century of leaving bikes behind.

https://www.businessinsider.com/cycling-boom-us-streets-infrastructure-bike-lanes-history-united-states-2020-12

[Droptarotter]

A;
As the cyclist who started this thread, that first link is absolutely horrible!!!

I'm not giving you ****........it's the people we lost and some of the facts of the accidents that really troubles me.

Damn!!