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paying duty on German made parts bought from Pelican??
a fellow I know locally placed a large order with Pelican. when it arrived at the Canadian border they contacted Pelican to confirm that all the parts were of US manufacture. Pelican confirmed all parts were of US manufacture. Customs officials then opened the boxes and of course many items are from Germany.
now the purchaser is being charged duty on the German made parts plus fines that must be paid before the shipment will be released from Canada Customs. has anyone run into this? I've placed many orders and never a problem. |
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Never heard of this happening Don. Why on earth would pelican staff say made in USA??? Are there staff working there who aren't aware the entire business is based on GERMAN cars.
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I've never had it on German parts. I've only ever got dinged importing German cars and that was 6% import duty plus the GST. You can refuse the package then it goes back to the CBSA and you can argue it. Still might get dinged or not.
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That's the chance you take not telling the truth to CBSA
No FTA with Germany so duties must be paid on new parts. If they check you are now in the system forever. There's a chance that CBSA officer will now be double checking all Pelican orders. |
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That is why we are told that Canadian shipping from pelican is so much more expensive. They need to do that extra paperwork for customs.
Oh, wait. I guess that didn't happen this time.
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I was once charged duty for some wheels 'made in germany' when bringing them across the border myself, but I think that was an isolated case and a bored CBSA officer.
I bring a LOT of stuff across from my drop box on the US side and have never had this happen. if CBSA starts looking into Pelican orders for non Free Trade dutiable items made overseas, it's really gonna change the game. Kennethg, I've imported several cars, including Porsches, and Japanese motorcycles and never paid duty. just the BC sales tax and GST. |
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They always ask me where they were made when I carry new tires across.
If NFTA country, it is different than if they are made in Europe or japan
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CBSA rules and regulations for import are easily available.
![]() Just because they don't always check small orders doesn't mean that they can't charge duty. Hmm....... "Executive Orders" and "Alternative Facts" may change the rules again? Think of it like a speeding ticket: For the many times you got away with it, sometimes you need to pay.
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Never happened to me in over 100+ crossing, paid HST, never paid any "duty" and got wave a lots time. At which crossing is that happening?
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I have had the same experience as you but when the dollar was low and vehicle after vehicle brought new tires across, they started asking
It's not consistent but when it is they play by NAFTA rules
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haycait911, I should have been more clear, I've only had to pay duty on vehicles newer than 15 years that fall into the RIV criteria and the VIN doesn't start with a 1,2,3,4,or 5. Over 15 years and they're pretty much all exempt. Just GST and PST if you have it.
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If Border Services called Pelican and they got some random person - who knows? - that person could have given them attitude, or been clueless about Canadian import regulations - Many Americans are unaware of different rules in Canada - it would just take 1 indifferent attitude from someone in California to encourage the CBSA to look a little closer.
I have travelled several times to Niagara to pick up parts - each time I declare everything and expect to pay full boat. I assume they are well trained so they can tell when you BS them - either on the phone or in person. Not worth the few bucks you would save if you pulled it off. I am not complaining - I want a secure border.
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I believe there is also an exemption for vintage car parts versus nwesew ones.
Newer ones definitely fall under nafta duty and import rules Exception are anything built in the US, canada or mexico with some exemptions for vintage parts I believe??? If you have never paid duty on foreign parts, you should thank your border agent for deciding that it is not worth the time and paperwork to collect the duty. On a busy day you might just get waved through with no duty or taxes whatsoever. groceries and children clothes are also exempt.
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Eighty two dollars duty on a Genuine Porsche eleven blade cooling fan from Germany.
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So, $XXX + $82 + HST ?
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curtisr, I don't think that's an appropriate post. considering who is paying for this site
![]() I have dealt with other suppliers in the past and prefer Pelican for a few good reasons...... 1. the parts are always the right ones. saving the huge headaches of returns. 2. the quality is always good. 3. it's 'one stop shopping' , I can get everything I need in one order. 4. I appreciate this site and am willing to support it to maintain the forums and resources therein. the reason for this thread is not related to Pelican specifically but to what seems to be a change in the policies of CBSA. . |
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The bill from the post office just said customs delivery. if you do the math to Canadian dollars and apply a 14 percent charge it works out to near 83 bucks or so. I am not complaining . the service was good . the shipping was fast. the part is as stated. it would be nice to know if duty is applicable on what parts. This site is a valuable wealth of knowledge and I appreciate it.
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I have commercial accounts from World-pac and Autocamping and Pelican still for the most part offers a better and most cases reasonably priced supply for air cooled parts that are OE/equivalent or better than OE that the others offer in URO etc with a lot to be desired in those cases. Ask me how I know. If it's not OE or a known manufacturer with a good history of quality parts, I cant be bothered to use them. Just comes back to bite me in the a$$.
The only real issue it seems is getting dinged the exchange rate and the extra brokerage/duty charges that really just seem to come out of a random number generator. |
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I had the same experience with the first company on the list above. I put in an order in the four digit range and received 60% substituted parts. I also know the big bird will make it right if something goes south on an order here.
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