F1: 2019 thread

[rfuerst911sc]

^^^ Might as well use the Dolphins stadium they sure don't need it

[Jims5543]

I attended to Formula E race in downtown Miami a few years ago and enjoyed it greatly. That was a fun city to have a race in with mass transit in place. We stayed about 2 miles from the venue, rode the metro mover to the race then walked to a bar after for drinks then walked back to the hotel since we were about 1 mile from it by then.

I would love to see them put a F1 race in Miami, I do not think it will happen, Miami does not NEED F1 and will not pay for it. They fill their hotels up just fine without it.

[URY914]

https://sports.yahoo.com/stadium-based-miami-f1-race-095436698.html

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by URY914

https://sports.yahoo.com/stadium-based-miami-f1-race-095436698.html

I attended the Race of Champions (ROC) 2 years ago? At the Marlins Stadium.

It was empty all weekend. Maybe 20% of the seats were filled.


Too much going on in Miami, honestly, as much as I like the idea, I do not see it happening. No way Miami is paying the extortion money to host an F1 race.

They really really do not need it. Unless it was during the off season (right now) which happens to be peak Hurricane season, so I do not see this happening.

[nota]

Originally Posted by Jims5543

I attended the Race of Champions (ROC) 2 years ago? At the Marlins Stadium.

It was empty all weekend. Maybe 20% of the seats were filled.


Too much going on in Miami, honestly, as much as I like the idea, I do not see it happening. No way Miami is paying the extortion money to host an F1 race.

They really really do not need it. Unless it was during the off season (right now) which happens to be peak Hurricane season, so I do not see this happening.

I agree the fees F-1 charges are insane

BUT MIAMI IS WANTED BY F-1 and was a NO fee deal to hold a race
instead of a 10-20-30 million fee LIBERTY was GIVING MIAMI THE RACE FREE
so just expected to provide track and other set up costs locally covered
without a huge fee on top of the real costs
and some how the local political leaders are blowing it BIG TIME

the ONLY other no fee race is monte carlo

[rfuerst911sc]

Interesting qualifying session I really thought Vettel might get the pole . Riccardo had good results but penalized for MGU spike ??? and now starts last . Grosean rewards Haas for picking him up for next year by not getting out of the first session ☹️ Lots of guys hitting the walls .

[astrochex]

Interesting race too. I doubt anybody would have picked the winner.

[David]

I don't think Leclerc has much to complain about. If he had pitted first instead of Vettel, how do we know that Hamilton wouldn't have put in faster lap times for a lap or two before he changed tires and come out in front of Leclerc. Leclerc should have picked up the pace on his in lap if he had anything left in the tires and it didn't seem like he could. It didn't seem like Ferrari or Mercedes realized how much faster new hard tires would be.

[cairns]

Nota wants Miami to take on F1 when he thinks the place will be under water in five years??

[javadog]

Originally Posted by cairns

Nota wants Miami to take on F1 when he thinks the place will be under water in five years??

Well, one of the ideas that the idiot Bernie Ecclestone had was to install water sprinklers in the corners and turn them on randomly.

Apparently there’s no degree of stupidity that’s too extreme for F1.

(Not that there’s any chance of Miami being underwater in our lifetimes.)

[Deschodt]

Originally Posted by David

I don't think Leclerc has much to complain about. If he had pitted first instead of Vettel, how do we know that Hamilton wouldn't have put in faster lap times for a lap or two before he changed tires and come out in front of Leclerc. Leclerc should have picked up the pace on his in lap if he had anything left in the tires and it didn't seem like he could. It didn't seem like Ferrari or Mercedes realized how much faster new hard tires would be.

That, and I think he owed Seb one after the Monza qualifying shenanigans. It's fine.
You gets paid $millions, you drive for Ferrari, you won monza, eat that one the same way Seb ate monza... And I say that as a Leclerc Fan. it's all good.

I must say I was not expecting Ferrari to win 3 on the trot. Mighty impressive. Imagine if they sweep Russia !!

[cairns]

That, and I think he owed Seb one after the Monza qualifying shenanigans. It's fine.
You gets paid $millions, you drive for Ferrari, you won monza, eat that one the same way Seb ate monza... And I say that as a Leclerc Fan. it's all good.

I must say I was not expecting Ferrari to win 3 on the trot. Mighty impressive. Imagine if they sweep Russia !!

Agree 200%

[chapo]

It was a great display of tire management not allowing the top six to race. Silly, actually.

[legion]

So Ferrari won one race by backing up everyone so they couldn't qualify. Then Ferrari won another race by backing everyone up so they couldn't race. Seems like Ferrari is back to form.

[chapo]

Which is exactly the scenario Mercedes was trying to make happen/ avoid. I get you like Lewis but the strategy is the same if they are smart, like the top teams are. Too bad racing doesn't enter the equation for any of the teams. Give the tires to last the event , a bunch of HP, and no radios and se what happens.

[Jims5543]

Actually Mercedes were using that strategy, they had Bottas backing up the field behind him so Lewis could pit and come out to a relatively empty track and get after the leaders.

Bottas has a large #2 stamped on his forehead now. Mercedes will still tell you there is no driver preference though and we should believe them.

Vettels pit stop was a last second reaction to cover Max, Ferrari saw RBR setting up and called Seb in 2 turns before the pit entry. At that point Seb was racing Max, his out lap, after a slow pit stop that lost him over half a second, was blisteringly fast as well as the lap the followed that, those 2 laps won him the race.

Also, once he cleared the front running cars that had not pitted he quickly built a 6 second lead over Leclerc. The safety cars negated that lead. Leclerc got stuffed for sure, I do not think it was nefarious though, I think it was dumb luck. Ferrari were reacting to Max and it turned out to be a brilliant move, no one thought the hard tires would be so quick.

Ironically, as much as I am a Ferrari fan, I was barely excited for these last couple of wins. It is too late, Mercedes have all the championships wrapped up. Lewis is already WDC and Mercedes at WCC, that was decided at summer break.

We are just testing for 2020 at this point.

[Captain Ahab Jr]

All Redbull and Torro Rosso drivers taking penalties for Honda this weekend, good track for it as plenty of over taking opportunities and gives them a race to run in their Suzuka spec motors

In other rumour news McLaren about to announce a switch to Mercedes engines

Leaves Renault a little bit out in the cold with regards to using a customer team to help prove out reliability/power upgrades

[legion]

If true, I wonder what kind of amend McLaren had to make....

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Originally Posted by legion

If true, I wonder what kind of amend McLaren had to make....

Next year they will stay with Renault power, it's for 2021 and on.........

[rfuerst911sc]

Interesting qualifying session .