F1: 2019 thread

[sammyg2]

That's sad.

[javadog]

Originally Posted by Won

Unfortunately, the grown the f up version of Max is.... Jos.

I don't recall his dad being such a prick.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Jims5543

And just like that.... Max will never drive for Ferrari.

You say that like it's a bad thing. I think if karma were real, he would someday be made to drive for Ferrari. That way his career would take the same hopeless turn that Fernando's and Seb's both wound up taking. Ferrari are done. They are too damned Italian to win in the modern era. Passion no longer trumps technology.

Originally Posted by Won

Unfortunately, the grown the f up version of Max is.... Jos.

No kidding. The apple did not fall far from the tree.

[astrochex]

Originally Posted by Won

Unfortunately, the grown the f up version of Max is.... Jos.

Did you get any sleep last night or are the celebrations ongoing?

[chapo]

Unfortunately, I am really not caring about any of the f1 teams. Sad. they are all the same. I miss the Ligiers, real Renaults, Ferrari's, Tyrells, Cosworth powered dreamers, bennetons, etc. Its all corporate, they all look the same, there is no innovation allowed, too many aero doodads that the casual fan could care less about, etc. No heroic drives in the rain from lesser teams with greater drivers possible. Genie is out of the bottle, I get it, just too bad. My thumb is firmly on the FF button through most of them and if I miss one, oh well.

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Originally Posted by astrochex

Bigger news is release of the 2021 regulations. Big changes to the car and the regulations. The Captain and Won are going to be extra busy.

https://youtu.be/3JddVHuPmCM

This is big news but Jean Todt put me to sleep after about 30 secs

The is easier on the brain, even got easy to follow animations which helped me to understand it all and make sense of the changes

First impression is it should give the fans what they want of more over taking and a more leveled playing field

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-JKrs0rrc

I'm already busy I should start working on 2022 very soon

Won's going to really like the front wing rules, he'll only need to do about one or two front wing profiles per aero update instead of the loads he has to do now

[Deschodt]

In other news, Seems like Binotto was mighty pissed off at red Bull's allegations, and threatened Horner with legal action (diffamation presumably) against the team and drivers.

Also the new Renault CEO is not an F1 Fan and now there are rumors of a renault pullout, and that was even discussed with Liberty at Austin. Would suck for Ocon and Ricciardo. Hopefully that is all BS.

And..the 2020 tire test did not go well, apparently the new tires are crap and they might stay with 2019 spec.

Me, i kinda like it when teams are hating each other...Also when there were tire wars. Or at least when tires were good enough to not have to be managed. It's sprint, not endurance.

[Jims5543]

I thought this was interesting. If Ferrari are suddenly down on power, it is not evident in the speed traps.




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[javadog]

Without knowing the aero settings the top speed numbers are meaningless. There are ways to estimate power output but I'd imagine Max was just talking out of his ass.

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by javadog

Without knowing the aero settings the top speed numbers are meaningless. There are ways to estimate power output but I'd imagine Max was just talking out of his ass.

There are rumors floating around Ferrari lost big power (70 hp) after being caught cheating.

I would imagine 70 hp would drop top speed down a bunch regardless of aero.


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[javadog]

That's what the other teams would like you to believe. Maybe true, may not be true.

It certainly wasn't evident from the speeds they were reaching at Austin, see the numbers you posted above, so what exactly was Max observing?

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Originally Posted by Jims5543

There are rumors floating around Ferrari lost big power (70 hp) after being caught cheating.

I would imagine 70 hp would drop top speed down a bunch regardless of aero.


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Really doubt they were cheating

More like they found a loophole in the rules which was closed by a rule clarification

F1 way of blocking another team for doing something you can't do or have time to do

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by javadog

...so what exactly was Max observing?

Red cars in his rear view mirrors?

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by Jims5543

There are rumors floating around Ferrari lost big power (70 hp) after being caught cheating.

I would imagine 70 hp would drop top speed down a bunch regardless of aero.


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70 hp is massive, that's 7% + over the rest..

[Captain Ahab Jr]

This one is for Won, which one is you?

1st year in F1 and a you win the double, congratulations, it doesn't get much better than that

[legion]

Hmmm....seems what Ferrari were doing with their engines was metering fuel past he fuel-flow sensor at the maximum rate even when they didn't use all of it in the engine and "saving" some of the fuel. Then they could use some of the saved fuel + maximum fuel flow rate at other parts of the lap...

[astrochex]

Thats very clever.

[Captain Ahab Jr]

I would love to comment about this as its been around for at least 5yrs

A very simple solution, F1 has a knack of making the simple complicated

[javadog]

OK, don’t leave us hanging. What do you know about this issue?

[astrochex]

Originally Posted by javadog

OK, don’t leave us hanging. What do you know about this issue?

+ Juan.