Notre Dame fire

[jyl]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

No argument, it is a beloved building. But I don't think it is number one in the world. There are many other churches, and castles, and other buildings on the list of beloved buildings.

It is truly sad that it happened. With luck the photos of the building before the fire will be enough to rebuild it with 21st century materials.

Sacre blue! You are a cochon.

I am pretty sure evey inch of Notre Dame has been documented. It's been extensively restored before too.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Gogar

Buddy! Switch to decaf.

To be fair, it was the rest of his post that was offensive.

[Bill Douglas]

I hope the hunchback got out OK.

Probably the halfwit who caused it was a construction guy with a gas torch who said the union said I finish at five not when I have checked for burning from the gas.

[The Synergizer]

For 1,000 years man was a proper custodian of the historical treasure. 40-50 generations of souls looked upon that building. But now, we are into the new world of imbeciles, cell phones, and alternate realities. Oops...

[pavulon]

people with world-class carpentry skill, sophistication, an understanding of the french language and a willingness to move to Paris...probably not the guys who just let the place turn to heat and light and various gases.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by jyl

The roof and spire will be rebuilt, never fear. Maybe with sprinklers . . .

Damage to artwork is the big question. The cathedral was being worked on, hopefully some of the artwork was in storage or otherwise covered up.

Notre Dame de Paris has stood for 800 years. The structure is mostly non flammable, I would think. No expense will be spared to rebuild and restore it. It represents a nation and may be the most beloved building in the world, not to mention of immense value to the tourist economy.

The external walls and naves sure but there must be ALOT of wood and such in there, that is a huge blaze. (I've never been inside)


https://twitter.com/i/status/1117848909877895171

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by Baz

Very sad - thoughts to all the people of France and others this has impacted.

oh man I didn't think of that, shee-it that's a devastating loss of art.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by The Synergizer

For 1,000 years man was a proper custodian of the historical treasure. 40-50 generations of souls looked upon that building. But now, we are into the new world of imbeciles, cell phones, and alternate realities. Oops...

You forget the destructions.

Such as what happened to it during the French Revolution.

Or when it got shot up.

That building is not all original.

[Deschodt]

Firefighters have it under control now, the structure and main towers are saved. They are busy evacuating art work (in the smoke) and taking it to conservation places to stop the damage, and cooling off the part of the spine that hasn't caved in, it's dangerous work... Unlike what some idiots suggested (one of them a president, even) using fire planes would make it collapse... France has plenty of Canadair and Tracker fire planes but only helicopters could be used with lighter water loads to avoid more damage... (that said I'd have loved to see a pic of a canadair scoop water on the Seine river - would have been fancy flying)

It can be rebuilt.

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

You forget the destructions.

Such as what happened to it during the French Revolution.

Or when it got shot up.

That building is not all original.

Patina!

[Seahawk]

I found this article inspiring:

Jean-Marc Fournier, the chaplain of the Paris Fire Brigade, had been at the Arc de Triomphe for its annual Holy Monday ceremony honoring military chaplains of the past, but the day quickly turned dark when he saw a plume of black smoke rising from the city. He checked his phone, which was filled with dozens of messages telling him Notre Dame was burning, and he immediately rushed to the cathedral to help.

Speaking with the French Catholic magazine Famille Chrétienne, Fournier said when he rushed to Notre Dame and saw the fire raging, “We quickly focused on the priority: the Relics of the Passion and the Blessed Sacrament.” The Crown of Thorns is said to have been worn by Jesus on the cross, and the Blessed Sacrament is the central part of every Catholic Mass. Catholics believe that when the bread is consecrated it becomes what is known as the "real presence" — the actual "body of Christ."

While other firefighters broke open the case holding the Crown of Thorns and rescued it from the blaze, Fournier made his way to the Altar of St. George to rescue the sacrament from the fire, moving it to a sacristy that was not threatened by the flames. Standing with the rescued sacrament in hand as the fire raged, Fournier said, “I asked Jesus — who I really believe is in these hosts — to fight the flames and preserve the building dedicated to his mother.”

Speaking to the New York Times, the priest joked, “I thought Jesus could help us a little bit and work, too. I invited him to worry about his own house if he didn’t want to finish the night under a tent by the Canal Saint-Martin.”

Fournier said that when he entered the cathedral, the spire had already collapsed and he feared the nave might be about to cave in as well, describing in vivid detail “a rain of fire that was falling without pause from the roof.”

A coordinated effort was also launched to save as many other treasures as possible. Firefighters rushed throughout the cathedral and up hundreds of stairs to its bell towers. And a human chain was formed to quickly move statues and other works of art away from the blaze. Many of the rescued works have been sent to the Louvre for storage and restoration. Fournier said he led the way through Notre Dame’s chapels and corridors, helping rescuers save as much as they could until they were told the fire was too dangerous to continue.

This isn’t the first time that Fournier has had a brush with danger.

The November 2015 Islamic State terrorist attacks in and around Paris killed 130 people. The deadliest part of the assault happened at the Bataclan music venue during an Eagles of Death Metal concert, where 90 people were killed. Fournier was among the first to rush into the theater, helping evacuate victims, comforting the wounded, and performing last rites for the dying. “I gave collective absolution, as the Catholic Church authorizes me,” the priest said following the attack.

Before that, Fournier served as a military chaplain for years as part of the Diocese of the French Armed Forces, where he deployed to Afghanistan.

In his Easter homily, French Archbishop Michel Aupetit honored Fournier’s heroism and praised the priest for saving the Blessed Sacrament. Crux, a Catholic magazine, quoted the bishop as rhetorically asking worshippers: “What is more precious? The cathedral, the treasure, or the bread crumb?”

“It is for this Body, veiled under the appearance of a crumb of bread, that this cathedral was built,” the archbishop said.

[Crowbob]

There’s a plan out there for the rebuild. Very interesting use of modern materials and engineering. The reinterpreted spire is integral to the overall redesign of the roof. The curvilinear mass of the roof is symbolic of a spear piercing the sky. Very aerodynamic but somehow sits-and fits-atop Our Lady of Paris.

It is also rooftop agriculture. Translucent. The vegetables and fruit to be dispersed by the Church. I understand the aspect of it being a nod to nature, to food and to charity. And it is reminiscent of those wrought iron fillagree pergolas and solariums of old that everybody loves.

Interesting.

[Jims5543]

http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/only-9-of-millions-pledged-for-notre-dame-handed-over/article/552019

Interesting development.

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[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Jims5543

Only 9% of millions pledged for Notre-Dame handed over

Interesting development.

The minister told France radio the huge shortfall as it stands was due to two factors.

"First, you might have people who promised to give but who in the end won't," he said.

"But mostly -- and this is normal -- is that the donations will be handed over as the work advances."

I would be kinda nervous if in charge of this huge multi-year (decade?) project and funds WILL likely come, but when and by whom. Yikes.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

The minister told France radio the huge shortfall as it stands was due to two factors.

"First, you might have people who promised to give but who in the end won't," he said.

"But mostly -- and this is normal -- is that the donations will be handed over as the work advances."

I would be kinda nervous if in charge of this huge multi-year (decade?) project and funds WILL likely come, but when and by whom. Yikes.

I'd imagine that suppliers wouldn't be thrilled with the prospect of deferred payment.