Ford vs. Ferrari movie - Page 11

72doug2,2S · 72doug2,2S's Garage

After watching the film, I feel like I have a connection to Ken Miles. Before the film, he was just a name.

sugarwood · sugarwood's Garage

They did a great job of making 24-hr endurance racing, something that could otherwise seem really tedious, appear exciting and dramatic. The nighttime racing in the rain scenes were very well done and really amped up the sense of tension and suspense. It's also hard to imagine this era of racing where there was no communication between the drivers and their teams in the pit, because they didn't have radios then.

I can't imagine why "car guys" wouldn't love it. The movie is a glorification of car guys and their struggle against automotive mediocrity and corporate group-think. The joke is that "Ferrari" is a completely minor character of little consequence to the storyline. The accurate title would be "Carroll Shelby and Ken Miles v. the Corporate Idiot *******s At Ford." I can't imagine the Ford company is very happy about this film.

As a side note, there were a few scenes where the Ferrari team members were yelling at each other in Italian which was not subtitled on the screen. My wife is fluent in Italian and understood all of it. She said they were essentially cursing at each other and dropping F-bombs in Italian.

sugarwood · sugarwood's Garage

99.9% of Americans have never seen a car race, certainly not the 24 hours of Sebring, Daytona, or Le Mans. Why would Hollywood make a movie for that tiny fraction of people who care about endurance road racing? Nerd fanboys can't see to grasp that it's a dramatic movie, not a documentary, and dramatic movies are about characters in conflict in trying circumstances. If they made it more technically accurate and included details about correct pedal angles (?) or whatever, would that make it a better movie? Definitely not. Movies have to establish characters and generate empathy and connection with them, otherwise no one cares what happens.

To see the difference, compare it to an actual documentary about car racing, last season's Netflix series called "F1: Drive to Survive." It's supposed to be this exciting, behind-the-scenes look into the lives of drivers and crew on a couple of F1 teams over the course of the 2018 season. It's actually a muddled, disjointed mess that ends up being completely boring. I watched the whole thing waiting for something, anything to happen or some likeable character to emerge, but they never did. It's technically accurate, because it uses footage of real races and reality-TV style coverage of the teams, but it all adds up to nothing. For example, the documented teams keep mentioning that Ferrari is the team to beat and they win every race because they have the best car, but they never once mention anything about why the Ferrari car is better. Motor? Gearbox? What? I would have liked to have seen a little more technical-geekery about the Ferrari simply because it would have explained a major point about what is going on and why people are trying to catch up with it. But no, they didn't include that.

JackDidley · JackDidley's Garage

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Originally Posted by sugarwood

I can't imagine why "car guys" wouldn't love it. The movie is a glorification of car guys and their struggle against automotive mediocrity and corporate group-think. The joke is that "Ferrari" is a completely minor character of little consequence to the storyline. The accurate title would be "Carroll Shelby and Ken Miles v. the Corporate Idiot *******s At Ford." I can't imagine the Ford company is very happy about this film.

I would think Ford is thrilled with it. Any publicity is better than no publicity. They won the big races and perpetuated the legend of Shelby. Yes, Ford still puts the Shelby name on Mustangs and sells them at a premium.

sc_rufctr · 11-24-2019, 12:18 AM

I saw it with my son this afternoon... Wow, great. The ending was tragic but they portrayed it well.

The Ford executive personal thing may seem far fetched to some but it's something I've witnessed first hand.
For whatever reason someone takes a dislike to someone and that just lingers forever.

Anyway it was worth it just for the cars and they were all beautiful. The 60s is my favourite period for motor racing.

sc_rufctr · 11-24-2019, 04:45 AM

I thought this may be of interest.

I'm fairly sure this is Mollie Miles. (I searched and this is the best I could come up with)

Here's an article including another picture of Mollie. (Page 2)

pavulon · 11-24-2019, 07:21 AM

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The 60s is my favourite period for motor racing.

Vintage racing is still the bomb!

BeyGon · 11-24-2019, 04:17 PM

My wife and I just saw it today, she liked it too. It's a movie, it doesn't have to be totally accurate like a documentary.

sc_rufctr · 11-24-2019, 04:26 PM

One a quick comment. All of the cars were beautiful.

Modern racing cars look clumsy in comparison.

Tidybuoy · 11-24-2019, 04:55 PM

I saw the movie last week. I loved every bit of it and I thought all of the actors played their parts well. I can't wait for it on DVD so I can buy and watch again

Cajundaddy · Cajundaddy's Garage

Saw it today and loved it. Great story, great acting, great cinematography. Real cars and real people.

gary1101 · gary1101's Garage

A Race Car Replicas in Detroit made all of the cars for the movie. They produce 917 replicas also.

Ford vs Ferrari Project â€” Race Car Replicas

masraum · 11-24-2019, 06:03 PM

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Vintage racing is still the bomb!

Absolutely. I love watching modern cars race, but vintage is even better.

masraum · 11-24-2019, 06:07 PM

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Went today with my 93 yr old Pop, an old time flat track racer from the 40's.

I'll bet we'd all love a thread with some stories from your pop!

masraum · 11-24-2019, 06:10 PM

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Clearly that's a load of crap , it's not like they recreated 1966 Le Mans in the real word. is it.

see the screenshot

If that's not CGI, then what is it?
Did they manually hand paint every frame?

They built over 100 yards of bleachers for the film, so maybe they "recreated" Le Mans in Cali versus trying to turn back time.

Also in one of the video links, they say that they did have some CGI (people in the bleachers versus hiring 50,000 fans to sit in them, and some of the background scenery). I think the point is that the cars/racing isn't CGI.

You switch to decaf, sir.

BeyGon · 11-24-2019, 06:53 PM

It's a movie, drama, my wife saw it last weekend with her brother and told me I would like it, she even wanted to see it again, she took me today, I loved it.

wdfifteen · wdfifteen's Garage

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Vintage racing is still the bomb!

Oh yes! I love it.
Went to a CanAm reunion at Elkhart Lake a couple of years ago. Those cars - the sight and sound of them - somehow managed to suck tears right out of my eyes.
It was something I haven't experienced since the early 1970s at Mid-Ohio. I always parked myself at Madness, and the sound of the Porsches, McClarens, Lolas, Shadows, and Chaparalls cranking up and around that series of turns was a religious experience.

sc_rufctr · 11-24-2019, 07:08 PM

What I find especially interesting is that women seem to like this movie.

Cajundaddy · Cajundaddy's Garage

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What I find especially interesting is that women seem to like this movie.

A story set in a time when men were men. Three generations of gals went with us and all loved it.

Paul K · Paul K's Garage

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What I find especially interesting is that women seem to like this movie.

My wife did. Epic film.