Air Force One

[Nickshu]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

His proposals aren't dreadful. No gold T in site.

I think the new designs look great. The current baby blue belly looks very dated.

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[javadog]

It looks like Boeing is doing the design proposals, so maybe the *******s should get all upset at Boeing.

I'm not a fan of the light blue on the bottom of the current planes and there are a few other details that bother me about the existing design. I'd be curious to see what else they came up with, as I'm dead sure those four designs are not all of them.

FWIW, I am not a fan of any Raymond Loewy design, so hanging onto that distinction means nothing to me. His car designs were hideous, especially the Avanti, every Studebaker ever made and all of his one-offs.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by island911

I'm guessing that the new paint design would be fine if Michelle approved it. But completely wrong and worth ridicule if President Trump approved the design. --that's just the way the TDS'ers roll.

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

Pretty much true for me. He has sullied our nation’s image and reputation enough. I don’t want 20 years of future presidents to have to fly in airplanes that Trump has put his stain upon.

Patrick acknowledges his TDS, priceless.

[cairns]

The Avanti was one butt ugly car for sure.

And Baby blue? Only liberal wusses would love that.

Perfect for their VW convertibles......

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by cairns

The Avanti was one butt ugly car for sure.

And Baby blue? Only liberal wusses would love that.

Perfect for their VW convertibles......

Carolina Blue ....just like the sky is Carolina Blue....that's gawd's country for folks South of the Border.

And Dook Blue is cool too...

Just not Gator Orange....nope!

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by oldE

At the risk of inflaming tempers, I am asking :
Why would the president be bothered to announce the color scheme of airplanes which will not be seen for a few years? Is it really that big of a deal?
(Apparently it is to some around here,) but I would think the undersecretary of infrastructure or whatever would be the go to person for such a thing. It is just a paint scheme for government aircraft.

Sorry if I'm stirring up stuff with my lack of understanding.
Best
Les

Originally Posted by island911

Because Trump likes watching Liberal heads explode over nothing?

If it is that, I'm not sure who is more to blame; Trolling Trump, or the people so preoccupied with parading their anti-anything Trump meme that they so easily trigger in to their substance-barren do-loop of Orange man bad hatred.

meh, both sides seem to enjoy the exchange. ..for different reasons.

I pretty much agree with Island again here (holy shiit, I must be ill!!! ), but would add that our current Prez is only in office to, "make liberal heads explode", (any heads, really, other than his own, which he pays certain women, and probably some men, to do for him), on the largest stage he could imagine for himself. AKA -the guy is only doing this president job for personal entertainment and in the attempt to pump his yuuugggeeee, yet ridiculously child-like and fragile, ego. The joke is on us, of course.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

The shape of the 747-8 is not the same as the 747, a new paint design is needed to accommodate the new shape.

The fuselage and empennage match that of the -400 and -300 that preceded it, just lengthened a little bit. The -400 and -300 passenger airplanes only differ from the earlier -200 and -100 in that they sport the extended upper deck. As an aside, all freighters retained the original shorter upper deck, right up through the current -8F. The -8 Intercontinental, the passenger version from which AF1 will be made, has the same "shape" as every 747 that preceded it. The only changes in the -8 (other than being lengthened a bit) are new wings, engines, and landing gear.

I started my career on the 747 in 1980, working on the major body section jigs, as a backfill for folks being reassigned to the then new 767. The exact same body section jigs on which I cut my tool engineering teeth are still in use today, building 747-8's. The same ones that have been in use since the late 1960's, building every 747 ever made.

Originally Posted by Tervuren

Having a plane the color of the flag is not a terrible thing.

Agreed. I think a red, white, and blue AF1 would be appropriate.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

The fuselage and empennage match that of the -400 and -300 that preceded it, just lengthened a little bit. The -400 and -300 passenger airplanes only differ from the earlier -200 and -100 in that they sport the extended upper deck. As an aside, all freighters retained the original shorter upper deck, right up through the current -8F. The -8 Intercontinental, the passenger version from which AF1 will be made, has the same "shape" as every 747 that preceded it. The only changes in the -8 (other than being lengthened a bit) are new wings, engines, and landing gear.

Try to use the same paint or wrap template and you end up looking silly.

About 29 feet silly.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

Why not the engines instead?

That would work! Or maybe cover the engines' cowlings with Trump quotes ("yuuugggee, biggly, fake news, no collusion no obstruction, that's treason, he/she is a horrible horrible person, build the wall", etc).

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

Try to use the same paint or wrap template and you end up looking silly.

About 29 feet silly.

Now you are just looking silly.

Adding 29 feet in an area in which the current paint scheme is no more than a dead level stripe down the side of the fuselage will make it look... pretty much exactly as it does today, only 29 feet longer.

[edgemar]

This looks good:

[sc_rufctr]

Coolest helicopter ever!

[Rawknees'Turbo]

^^^

That pic would be boss if the two-legged dung beetle strolling across the grass was cropped out!

Originally Posted by island911

Really?

Seems to me that Raw is cool with me, and I'm cool with him.

. . .

Absolutely! I've never had a problem getting along with people I often disagree with, as long as they have a sense of humor and can take zingers in stride when they are flinging their own (even though I know you tire of the constant barrage of jackassery at times ).

Originally Posted by island911

Do you have control issues?

is that it?

I think that was KC's way of letting you know that he is not using the safe-space spray that you provided him - the bisch is defiant like that!!!

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo

^^^

That pic would be boss if the two-legged dung beetle strolling across the grass was cropped out!

That "two-legged dung beetle" is your boss

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo

.... I know you tire of the constant barrage of jackassery at times ).




I think that was KC's way of letting you know that he is not using the safe-space spray that you provided him - the bisch is defiant like that!!!

I like both you bichez....as long as yer in PARF with yer non-stop political TS

I aint using that photoshopped can of deodorant...eliminates BO...so here I reek....sorta like PARF

Over here....we like to debate whether the iPhone will be a success or not....I haven't done a 180 on that in the past decade either.

TDS, O' ball washers, BDS, etc. If it weren't for PARF to educate me....

Scoolz OUT FOR SUMMER ....see you bichez in PARF...mebbe

Just say no to TDS....both flavors

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

I would like to know all the little secrets in AF One , and Marine one.
My thinking is they would be interesting.
I see they have the quiet rotor head there.

Probably Slick Willie's idea !

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

I would like to know all the little secrets in AF One , and Marine one.
My thinking is they would be interesting.
I see they have the quiet rotor head there.

I'm guessing Marine one is armoured but at what level?
AF One would have a whole array of defensive capabilities (flares etc.) & would also be armoured.

I doubt a normal military rifle could penetrate either aircraft. (5.56 or 7.62)

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

That "two-legged dung beetle" is your boss

More dang foreign interference in our elections....Aussie bichez....PARF !

[astrochex]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

Small arms armor is pretty hvy. At least it used to be.....
But my imagination wants to know....

It depends on the requirements, round, impact velocity, multi-hit, etc. Also, armor technology is constantly evolving.

[Seahawk]

When I was the Chief Government Pilot at the Sikorsky Factory all Marine One H-3's went through retrofit and heavy maintenance there...they call them "White Tops".

They were in a separate area and where guarded 24/7, even on the ramp. I never looked inside!

There is a new Marine One in work.