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[oldE]

Interesting the newspaper ad shows an E model
Gs had chin turrets.
Best
Les

[KNS]

Originally Posted by john70t

For sale
https://silodrome.com/p-51d-mustang-fighter-plane/

I remember in the early '80s P-51s could be purchased for $100,000 or more (I read 'Air Classics' a lot). At the time that was a lot of money and one could buy a really nice house for that.

Adjusted for inflation that's about $355,000 today.

[Sarc]

[svandamme]

Belgian F16 over the beach
inverted outside loop
popping flares, over land


I think somebody had his last flight cause there is NO way that was authorized

https://dailybuzz.nl/media/2022/7/7/56e1eb10-fdda-11ec-8b18-10ddb1b30d21/in-belgische-koksijde-is-luchtmacht-met-flares-aan-het-flexen_web_wm.mp4

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by john70t

For sale
https://silodrome.com/p-51d-mustang-fighter-plane/

That is the only Mustang I would ever wanna buy or sit in.
Anything less that a V12 3wheeler Mustang with a stick, hand throttle and rudder pedals can be crushed.

[john70t]

er....after Car-N-Coffee every Mustang is a three-wheeler.

[svandamme]

Good point, but not a V12, stick and rudder pedals !

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by Sarc

4m55 as far as I can tell that is John Monroe "hawk" Smith
VX4 Tomcat launch program officer
First Tomcat Cruise chief LSO
Flew first Tomcat combat mission over Vietnam during Op Frequent wind
TopGun XO
Got called over to Ace/Aim Val training to help put Hoser and his antics in check (who was giving the Top Gun Agressors a hard time), almost had Hoser for a simulated gun killed but Hoser yanked a 12G on the Tomcat and dissapeared in a cloud of vapes.
then Topgun CO, where he is credited for making TopGun what is is today with stiff opposition from some non believers.

Supposedly the top 3 F14 ACM pilot along with Joe Hoser Satrapa and Dale Snort Snortgrass, and some others. and probably top 10 ACM pilots of his era world wide.

So pretty much a legend.

Book : "Roger Ball" Really good read.

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by svandamme

That is the only Mustang I would ever wanna buy or sit in.
Anything less that a V12 3wheeler Mustang with a stick, hand throttle and rudder pedals can be crushed.

Why? You're on a car forum. A Ford Mustang is one of the best cars ever made. For me the winner is, GT350. The flat plane crank sound, the look, manual transmission, the whole great driving experience for that price? Cant beat that.

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Why? You're on a car forum.

Primarily a Porsche forum , at least it was when I signed up.
lets not get all confused, this thread is about Aviation

[Racerbvd]

[svandamme]

I am calling BS to that one, LA FC would be well aware of planes with callsign ASPEN coming out of Beale AFB.. Aspen typically being either U2 or SR71's and FL600 is nothing unusual in that airspace

[dlockhart]

When I am out to the fields and see these folks working, I stop and enjoy the air show




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[gordner]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

There is also no control at that altitude, they don't request anything, if atc is lucky they politely inform them.
Also, flight level 60 is 6k feet.

[450knotOffice]

Incorrect. There absolutely IS ATC control at FL600. It’s called Class A airspace, and all aircraft are required to have a clearance and operate under Instrument Flight Rules. So if an aircraft is above that airspace, and the pilot wants to descend into it from above, then he must obtain a clearance prior to doing so.

[fanaudical]

Thanks for that "pitching deck" video - that was awesome. Definitely watch part 2.

[gordner]

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

Incorrect. There absolutely IS ATC control at FL600. It’s called Class A airspace, and all aircraft are required to have a clearance and operate under Instrument Flight Rules. So if an aircraft is above that airspace, and the pilot wants to descend into it from above, then he must obtain a clearance prior to doing so.

My missstatement, you are correct, class A ends at FL600. They would call in to descend to FL600. My inaccurate reference applies FL600+

[edgemar]

[Seahawk]

I was not a 53E pilot but, since I was at the Sikorsky Factory for three years while the E was in production (K Model now) I have just over 100 hours in the 53E as a co-pilot - or, perhaps more appropriately, a Sand Bag.

As I have written before, it is like flying your house from your bathroom.

I did low level routes with the USMC Major at the factory across the desert delivering brand new 53E's to Tustin: 15 ft agl, 170kts. All legal.

BTW, Dash 2 gets above lead quickly. Helo’s, unlike jets, take station on lead from above

[Racerbvd]