Want a Hummer ??

[cabmandone]

I thought for sure this was going to be another one of those massage parlor threads.

[aschen]

I think GM underestimates the contempt for the hummer brand, ford using mustang brand for their EV brings more good will I think.

how many KWhrs do you need to push a massive, aerodynamic brick to 350 miles range? It must be 200+

[plain fan]

GM needs a halo product which isn't the Corvette, and the new Hummer is that halo product. It gives them instant awareness in the public mind/eyes and a platform to electrify everything in their lineup. This is just the first one released, a cheaper ($75k) is coming in a few years, color options in the future, an SUV configuration in the future, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if these motors or a form of these motors winds up in the Corvette.

It's a race to electrification for vehicle manufacturers right now then it will be a race to the bottom in terms of pricing.

[ledhedsymbols]

Originally Posted by gh85carrera

sure, but not the vehicle.

+1

[masraum]

Interesting. It's got a "Targa" to AND "T-tops". It's going to leak like a sieve if the tech is anything like the t-tops of the 80s.

The stats and capabilities listed are very impressive. I'm not the target, but I'd be happy to take one for a spin.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by bivenator

Whats the range on a charge? Unless I live next to area that I am off roading this seems impractical. Of course at 120K these probably wont get dirty too often.

they claim 350 miles

dunno if a range extender can be added

[masraum]

Originally Posted by RWebb

they claim 350 miles

dunno if a range extender can be added

Just fill the back with batteries!

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by masraum

Just fill the back with batteries!

Nope, a 220 volt gas powered generator.

[RWebb]

BMW currently uses a small (2 cyl? m/c) engine run on an Atkinson cycle as a range extender. You could also use an engine running on H or CH4, and eventually maybe a fuel cell.

OTOH, EV batteries might progress quickly enough to obviate a range extender.

For an off-road EV you do NOT want to get stuck in the outback due to drained batteries.

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by flipper35

The interior should come with eye bleach.

+1

And not just the interior. The whole thing is absolutely hideous, just as the H2/H3 was before it. I don't care if it could climb walls...I would not be a buyer on that at any price, let alone 6 figures. YMMV...

[berettafan]

In the context of Tesla pricing it’s very much in line. And build quality has got to be better.

I’m not a buyer but I think this is the beginning of the end for Tesla——-IF the gm product can meet the promises made.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by berettafan

In the context of Tesla pricing it’s very much in line. And build quality has got to be better.

I’m not a buyer but I think this is the beginning of the end for Tesla——-IF the gm product can meet the promises made.

So you are saying the bumpers probably wont fall off in heavy rain?

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by RWebb

OTOH, EV batteries might progress quickly enough to obviate a range extender.

They are either planning for it because they know it's coming or preparing for that eventuality. It's a bet, I'll bet.

[onewhippedpuppy]

$75k is the affordable model...lol. I know Tesla has found success with luxury electric cars but I have to think the ultimate market is fairly small and getting crowded. Electric cars are still a niche product by volume and with gas being cheap, they likely won’t make any serious inroads. I think an electric truck sounds awesome, instant torque would be great for towing. But I still don’t think the battery and charging technology are there for these to be a realistic alternative to ICE.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

$75k is the affordable model...lol. I know Tesla has found success with luxury electric cars but I have to think the ultimate market is fairly small and getting crowded. Electric cars are still a niche product by volume and with gas being cheap, they likely won’t make any serious inroads. I think an electric truck sounds awesome, instant torque would be great for towing. But I still don’t think the battery and charging technology are there for these to be a realistic alternative to ICE.

It's a weird thing. Some will be sold, but I don't see the yee-haw crowd (except a few) trading in their Raptors for E-Trucks even if they are faster and more powerful.

I wonder what the range is if you're towing something big and heavy. I've got to assume that towing a huge load will shorten your range like drag racing at full throttle. But then how many guys tow a huge boat or camper long distances these days. I just don't know.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by masraum

I wonder what the range is if you're towing something big and heavy. I've got to assume that towing a huge load will shorten your range like drag racing at full throttle. But then how many guys tow a huge boat or camper long distances these days. I just don't know.

I have a friend who bought an H2 Hummer. Never towed anything with it, never had more than 4 people in it. It was all about image. So there is a market.

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

I have a friend who bought an H2 Hummer. Never towed anything with it, never had more than 4 people in it. It was all about image. So there is a market.

And you don't see many of those on the road any longer. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw one.

There must be a giant pile of them somewhere...

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

I have a friend who bought an H2 Hummer. Never towed anything with it, never had more than 4 people in it. It was all about image. So there is a market.

Yeah that’s the market. Just like a Cybertruck. I routinely tow about 10,000 lbs 300 miles each way to the lake without a charger in sight. So it’s definitely not me.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

I have a friend who bought an H2 Hummer. Never towed anything with it, never had more than 4 people in it. It was all about image. So there is a market.

Absolutely

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey

And you don't see many of those on the road any longer. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw one.

There must be a giant pile of them somewhere...

Now that you mention it, yeah, I also can't remember the last time I saw one. I still occasionally see a HMMWV/Humvee, but those are nothing like the Hummer sold by GM.

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Yeah that’s the market. Just like a Cybertruck. I routinely tow about 10,000 lbs 300 miles each way to the lake without a charger in sight. So it’s definitely not me.

Right, so at 300 miles, I can't imagine that you could tow that in one go. You could maybe/probably drive it with a 350 mile range, but I'm sure not dragging a big load behind you.

[unclebilly]

I tried to reserve one. They were sold out by 7:30 this morning. I don’t think they even offered them in Canada.