The vaccine

[javadog]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

I would imagine the people of 1918 would love to have had a vaccine or our current medical knowledge.

No absolute proof, though many believe there is enough evidence that after the first wave the virus mutated and became very good at infecting people and also more virulent.

Covid 19 in 1918 would have been disastrous. The 1918 flu in 2020 would have been far less deadly.

In 1918, they would’ve love to have any useful medical care, at all. They had essentially none.

The mutations are less virulent, not more. Which is the normal order of things.

[island911]

In nature, yes ^

But not in the media.

In the media they insist that the virus is smart! (and thinking of ways to become more dangerous)

The media likes the reality that they can invent. It sell better to the Pollyanna crowd.

[javadog]

Seems to be working, the liberals are petrified.

[javadog]

For the life of me, I don’t know why the pro vaccination crowd isn’t even remotely curious about what they have injected into their bodies and whether or not that might’ve been a bad decision.

Another article worth reading:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/07/pathologist-dr-ryan-cole-delivers-concerning-message-about-covid-vaccine-and-long-term-impacts/

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by javadog

For the life of me, I don’t know why the pro vaccination crowd isn’t even remotely curious about what they have injected into their bodies and whether or not that might’ve been a bad decision.

Another article worth reading:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/07/pathologist-dr-ryan-cole-delivers-concerning-message-about-covid-vaccine-and-long-term-impacts/

They just don't care. They think they're smarter than everyone. They say oh i got. I'm good. Won't even entertain a thought about pros or cons. They're sheep.

[island911]

Well, the messaging has been vaccine vaccine vaccine...

Any talk of being healthy (not obese) or talk of therapeutics is silenced, or worse.

Any talk of the vaccine being anything less than perfect gets booted too.

And when the vaccine doesn't work, the CDC sez "wear a mask." That's it.

[ckelly78z]

Big Pharma is licking their chops at all the folks who willingly took the vaccine for future patients/profits.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by javadog

Bingo, we have a winner.

Don’t forget the natural shape of an endemic curve, either.

These things eventually die out, on their own. That’s why we’re no longer dealing with the 1918 flu, there was never a vaccine or any real treatment for that one.

You're so right! And it only killed about 50 million people first, so we have a ways to go on this one. Who needs a vaccine?

[pavulon]

Originally Posted by javadog

For the life of me, I don’t know why the pro vaccination crowd isn’t even remotely curious about what they have injected into their bodies and whether or not that might’ve been a bad decision.

Another article worth reading:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/07/pathologist-dr-ryan-cole-delivers-concerning-message-about-covid-vaccine-and-long-term-impacts/

An article about a pathologist who claims to have seen over 350,000 patients...seems legit

[speeder]

Originally Posted by javadog

For the life of me, I don’t know why the pro vaccination crowd isn’t even remotely curious about what they have injected into their bodies and whether or not that might’ve been a bad decision.

Another article worth reading:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/07/pathologist-dr-ryan-cole-delivers-concerning-message-about-covid-vaccine-and-long-term-impacts/

Just for the fun of it, tell us in 100 words or less exactly what the danger of the current vaccines is to normal people. I don't have time or interest to read your link, just summarize it for us.

Keep in mind that something like 350 million doses have been given so far. Tell us the documented, 100% real cases of people having a terrible outcome from getting the vaccine, (any of them).

[speeder]

Originally Posted by ckelly78z

Big Pharma is licking their chops at all the folks who willingly took the vaccine for future patients/profits.

What the hell, you too. Give us your sources, so we know that you're not just pulling these statements out of your ass.

[ckelly78z]

Originally Posted by speeder

What the hell, you too. Give us your sources, so we know that you're not just pulling these statements out of your ass.

The statement is mine, I own it, and believe it.

[Racerbvd]

[javadog]

Originally Posted by speeder

Just for the fun of it, tell us in 100 words or less exactly what the danger of the current vaccines is to normal people. I don't have time or interest to read your link, just summarize it for us.

Keep in mind that something like 350 million doses have been given so far. Tell us the documented, 100% real cases of people having a terrible outcome from getting the vaccine, (any of them).

I’m too lazy to type 100 words or less. It’s easy for me if you just read what I post. Here’s another one:

https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Pfizer-pharmacokinetics-and-toxicity.pdf

[javadog]

Originally Posted by pavulon

An article about a pathologist who claims to have seen over 350,000 patients...seems legit

Is this case, that would probably be 350,000 pathology samples. Don’t be stupid.

[pavulon]

Originally Posted by javadog

Is this case, that would probably be 350,000 pathology samples. Don’t be stupid.

So, your saying this guy sees zero patients (not uncommon for a pathologist) but claims to see 350,000 and that’s no biggie. No wonder your standards for credibility are so low. How many MyPillows do you own?

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by pavulon

So, your saying this guy sees zero patients (not uncommon for a pathologist) but claims to see 350,000 and that’s no biggie. No wonder your standards for credibility are so low. How many MyPillows do you own?

Hey! They're comfortable! I don't sleep well without mine.

[javadog]

Originally Posted by pavulon

So, your saying this guy sees zero patients (not uncommon for a pathologist) but claims to see 350,000 and that’s no biggie. No wonder your standards for credibility are so low. How many MyPillows do you own?

Did he make that claim, or was that claim made by someone that was writing about him? Did you watch the video? What did he say in the video that you disagreed with?

I own zero MyPillows. How about you?

[Chocaholic]

Originally Posted by speeder

Just for the fun of it, tell us in 100 words or less exactly what the danger of the current vaccines is to normal people. I don't have time or interest to read your link, just summarize it for us.

Keep in mind that something like 350 million doses have been given so far. Tell us the documented, 100% real cases of people having a terrible outcome from getting the vaccine, (any of them).

Sorry Denis...you’ll have to wait 5-10 years for an answer. Of course, you know this but pose your request as if it’s remotely possible.

Based on that, there is healthy rationale for skepticism. Much more than there is for blind acceptance.

Heck...it’s like asking you for proof that there will be no long term negative effects. Of course you can’t do that, but thinking people don’t play those games. Yet, you do.

[javadog]

Tell you what, how’s this?

The two things I worry about the most are:

the fact that my natural immune system might be less effective against other viruses in the future.

and I worry about the damage to the walls of my blood vessels, particularly the smaller ones.

As Chocaholic notes, there are many other concerns, long term. There are negative effects that can be expected in many of the major organs, most of which are non-repairable.

Read the ****ing links, for the details. Or, stick your head in the sand and circle the drain.