What should consequences be for those that decline the vax?

[Seahawk]

The vaccine is racist. I want to know where the data came from. But that is just me. BTW, when people got poked in their cars, what level of screening did they go through...height, weight, age, other health issues, etc?

Anyone know? Standard stuff, right?

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22 :%22asc%22%7D



Again, btw, how do they know how many blacks there are in the States if they don't have ID's?

The little things. Numbers.

Here are some more: https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/migrated_legacy_files//200341/vaccination-disparities-brief.pdf

More: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographic

Clearly, a "test" for the vaccine is racist and discriminatory. You Progressives going to move the blacks and Hispanics to the back of the bus, again? Complete elitists:

[Tidybuoy]

What should consequences be for those that decline the vax?

You get Covid.

[rcooled]

Originally Posted by Arizona_928

Same with smoking or drinking. One accepts the consequences. Freedom to live one's life how they want to.

Once again...it's not only about YOU! Smoking and drinking will, for the most part, only have an impact on your own health. By refusing to get vaccinated, you're putting others at risk too. And if you pass COVID to someone who may already have a compromised immune system and they become seriously ill, then their families and the healthcare workers who treat them are also put at risk.

We all need to work together to get this virus under control so the world can return to some sense of normalcy. This continued whining about one's own personal choices and freedom has no place in this discussion and is getting rather old.

It's a good thing that there wasn't such a backlash against getting the polio or smallpox vaccines back in the day.

[javadog]

Thinking that we'll ever banish Covid with the tools we have available is just stupid and ignores decades of medical wisdom.

Ain't. Going. To. Happen.

Protect the most at-risk, protect yourself to the degree you want.

That's it. Learn to live with it. Heart disease, cancer and a hundred other things are more of a risk to you. Life has risks.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Abide by the decisions of businesses, institutions, who have elected to impose restrictions on access to or use of services.

+1
Also, Government entities should not be able to override business decisions regarding the health and safety of customers and employees.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

I don't see a wet sponge. That makes it inhumane.

Is that Maple? Nice finish.

The soft, oblique lighting adds to the soothing look. I’ll bet it looks less inviting with the 500 watt overhead spotlight on.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

The vaccine is racist. I want to know where the data came from. But that is just me. BTW, when people got poked in their cars, what level of screening did they go through...height, weight, age, other health issues, etc?

Anyone know? Standard stuff, right?

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22 :%22asc%22%7D

This chart, I feel you interpret it as the percentages of a given demographic that has received the vaccine?

It breaks down the percentage of those who received the vaccine which a quick spot check of a few states lines up perfectly with each ones representation as a percentage in the given state.

Arizona
White alone, percent 82.6%
Black or African American alone, percent(a) 5.2%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a) 5.3%
Asian alone, percent(a) 3.7%

Arkansas
White: 76.72%
Black or African American: 15.32%
Other race: 2.79%
Two or more races: 2.69%
Asian: 1.52%
Native American: 0.68%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.29%

Idaho
White: 89.97%
Other race: 3.47%
Two or more races: 2.94%
Asian: 1.41%
Native American: 1.35%
Black or African American: 0.69%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.16%

Georgia
White 57.8%
Black or African American 31.9%,
4.1% Asian, 3.0% Some Other Race,
0.4% Native American and Alaskan Native,
0.1% Pacific Islander and
2.7% from two or more races.

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Again, btw, how do they know how many blacks there are in the States if they don't have ID's?

Among other things, census. We have them from time to time.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

....BTW, when people got poked in their cars, what level of screening did they go through...height, weight, age, other health issues, etc?
....

Forgot I wanted to answer this one as well.

My wife, son, myself all got the stick at Texas Motor Speedway.

Was a great experiences. Ran like clockwork with military precision.

In TX we signed up for an appointment with the Dept of Health.

We had to answer all those questions plus some before we could be scheduled.

No one just drove up like it was a pit stop.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

This chart, I feel you interpret it as the percentages of a given demographic that has received the vaccine?

It breaks down the percentage of those who received the vaccine which a quick spot check of a few states lines up perfectly with each ones representation as a percentage in the given state.

Arizona
White alone, percent 82.6%
Black or African American alone, percent(a) 5.2%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a) 5.3%
Asian alone, percent(a) 3.7%

Arkansas
White: 76.72%
Black or African American: 15.32%
Other race: 2.79%
Two or more races: 2.69%
Asian: 1.52%
Native American: 0.68%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.29%

Idaho
White: 89.97%
Other race: 3.47%
Two or more races: 2.94%
Asian: 1.41%
Native American: 1.35%
Black or African American: 0.69%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.16%

Georgia
White 57.8%
Black or African American 31.9%,
4.1% Asian, 3.0% Some Other Race,
0.4% Native American and Alaskan Native,
0.1% Pacific Islander and
2.7% from two or more races.




Among other things, census. We have them from time to time.

From the "Notes" section at the bottom of the page. More individuals state notes are also available.

Percentages are based on total vaccinations for which race/ethnicity is known. Shares of vaccinations in each state may not sum to 100% due to rounding, pending, or missing data. Vaccination data may not be directly comparable due to differences in data reported, reporting periods, racial/ethnic classifications, and/or rates of unknown race/ethnicity. Where states report vaccination data for people of multiple races, we include this data in the Other category. As of 3/15, KFF only reports state-reported unknown race/ethnicity data. If a state does not report the number or share of vaccinations with unknown race/ethnicity, it is reported as NR.

States vary in whether they report total people who have received at least one vaccine dose, people who have received one dose and people who are fully vaccinated, or total vaccinations administered. Where possible, we report data for people who have received at least one vaccine dose. Some states exclude vaccinations administered through the federal long-term care partnership from their data, which affects the demographic profile of people who have received vaccinations.

Persons of Hispanic origin may be of any race. States vary in whether they include or exclude Hispanic individuals in racial categories. States also vary in their racial/ethnic classifications. For example, some states report Asian and Pacific Islander people separately while others report them as a combined group.Total population data has been adjusted to reflect a states’ racial/ethnic classifications for vaccination data

[stevej37]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

The soft, oblique lighting adds to the soothing look. I’ll bet it looks less inviting with the 500 watt overhead spotlight on.

I would want a little more cushioning for my behind.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Arizona
White alone, percent 82.6%
Black or African American alone, percent(a) 5.2%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a) 5.3%
Asian alone, percent(a) 3.7%

Hmm if you don't have a car. Ie a lot of people in AZ. You can't get the vaccine. Cars are racist, and so is Lightening McQueen.

Once again classism not racism.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

From the "Notes" section at the bottom of the page. More individuals state notes are also available.

Percentages are based on total vaccinations for which race/ethnicity is known. Shares of vaccinations in each state may not sum to 100% due to rounding, pending, or missing data. Vaccination data may not be directly comparable due to differences in data reported, reporting periods, racial/ethnic classifications, and/or rates of unknown race/ethnicity. Where states report vaccination data for people of multiple races, we include this data in the Other category. As of 3/15, KFF only reports state-reported unknown race/ethnicity data. If a state does not report the number or share of vaccinations with unknown race/ethnicity, it is reported as NR.

States vary in whether they report total people who have received at least one vaccine dose, people who have received one dose and people who are fully vaccinated, or total vaccinations administered. Where possible, we report data for people who have received at least one vaccine dose. Some states exclude vaccinations administered through the federal long-term care partnership from their data, which affects the demographic profile of people who have received vaccinations.

Persons of Hispanic origin may be of any race. States vary in whether they include or exclude Hispanic individuals in racial categories. States also vary in their racial/ethnic classifications. For example, some states report Asian and Pacific Islander people separately while others report them as a combined group.Total population data has been adjusted to reflect a states’ racial/ethnic classifications for vaccination data

Right, I read that to.

Not sure it really tells us anything we could consider hard data.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Arizona_928

Hmm if you don't have a car. Ie a lot of people in AZ. You can't get the vaccine. Cars are racist, and so is Lightening McQueen.

Once again classism not racism.

It doesn't tell us anything about the percentage of the total population is vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

Just breaks down the vaccinated.

Not even sure classism applies with respect to that chart.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

It doesn't tell us anything about the percentage of the total population is vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

Just breaks down the vaccinated.

Not even sure classism applies with respect to that chart.

Never will. Census 2020. We should know very well what the populous is per county.

If you need a car to get a vaccine. Think about it. There's a reason why they started mobile covid testing in poor neighborhood.... was not only to justify the lock down.

[jcommin]

Originally Posted by 911 Rod

Maybe a national vote with these questions?

I'm sure someone/some group will claim the outcome was rigged/stolen.

[GG Allin]

If the vaccinated can still spread the virus, which I've been hearing they can, why do the vaccinated care about who's unvaccinated?

What about all the people who actually had Covid? Why no wide spread news about secondary infections?

Seems to me, natural antibodies is the way to go.

[VINMAN]

Why exactly does there need to be "consequences "???


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[john70t]

Yesterday I heard an extemded blurb on NPR on "How to convince others to take The Vax(tm).
It used every emotional trick in the book.
Family relationships, love, pregnant women, and the pure evil selfishness of all those who personally chose not to.
A guest doctor said there are two kinds of resisters: Christians and the old and unaware.
They are trying to break up families as if the draconian government actions weren't enough.
(Maybe turning people on one another was the original plan.)
https://nypost.com/2021/07/27/de-blasio-proclaims-voluntary-phase-is-over-on-covid-vaccines/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9846939/Soldiers-sent-enforce-lockdown-Sydney.html

Ask yourself two questions:
1). What is The Vax?
(Because mRNA manipulation is not a vaccine, despite changing the dictionary to fit the narrative.)

2). Does every manufacturer, Moderna/Pfizer/J&J produce the exact same product?
(Because a cornucopia hodge-podge of spaghetti drugs randomly pumped into the populous will never be "Science")

There is push-back even if you don't hear about it on Media.
Even the USPS Union won't accept vaxxing of its workers:
https://summit.news/2021/07/30/going-postal-american-postal-workers-union-rejects-biden-vaccine-mandate/)

There is a slight problem with claiming that the 60% of un-vaxxed Americans are all "far-right white christian extremists".
That entire NPR Media racist tirade which I heard was 'factually wrong', so maybe they should lose their license:


Legislation by Congress allow the vaccine makers to be exempt from lawsuits, so what recourse do Americans have when this happens?:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/pfizer-moderna-jabs-cause-heart-inflammation-some-men-cdc-finds
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-29-fully-vaccinated-medical-worker-both-legs-amputated.html
(there are many many more examples of vaccine deaths and injuries...too much to list in this thread)

Biden's DOJ goes with our new normal totalitarianism, of course:
https://yournews.com/2021/07/27/2189249/covid-1984ever-department-of-justice-declares-covid-19-vaccine-mandates-legal/

Except everything happening right now is highly illegal:
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/news/2021/02/23/federal-law-prevents-mandatory-vaccines-developed-under-emergency-use-authorization-but-employers-schools-are-mandating-anyway/

[john70t]

There should be consequences for medical fraud by health officials and practitioners: They should lose their license and pension.

There should be consequences for mass murder: Especially for Governors deliberately putting Covid patients into nursing homes.

There should be consequences for Media outlets spreading racist insinuations, promoting domestic terrorism, and spreading fraudulent medical information as proven fact instead of believed facts: Lose their FCC license.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by GG Allin

If the vaccinated can still spread the virus, which I've been hearing they can, why do the vaccinated care about who's unvaccinated?

.

Because we give a **** about those who remain unvaccinated because they are either not eligible or not candidates through no fault of their own.

It's not all about us.