Dogs really small fear?

[KFC911]

Seems like a little cannister of pepper spray would be the thing for you guys with bad dawg encounters to carry?

[stevej37]

^^^
Not much time to aim and spray at a dog while it's latched onto your ankle while pedaling a bike.
And trying to keep the bike upright.

[KFC911]

Ya gots to practice .... takes longer for some folks.... work yer way up to the big dawgs

[look 171]

Took bike out of car, walked across my narrow street (only one car can get through), Dog came out of nowhere and started to bark. Within 3-5 seconds, that little fooker came around the bike fast and got to my lower leg. Put two holes on my shin and one below my knee. Bad thing was, the owner claims she didn't see it. It happened so fast. I didn't want to make a big fuss because she lives couple blocks down the hill. Our eastern European woman with her baby and her big black and white dog that likes to jump on me or other people puts the fear of God in me. I told her to leash that damn thing but it goes to death ears. I just wait until she passes our house before I walk outside. Its easier and simpler. I think that dog has calm down a lot due to age. It doesn't run as fast as it use to. I told them both, if it happens again, I am having dog soup for dinner.

If I wasn't walking my bike with helmet and shoe in other hand, I would have been ready for it. Natural reaction is to get to my big old water hose and give it a shower. I was only 10 steps away.

I really they sense my body language. I heard it grow and saw it in near the front of my car so I guard was already up. Still, dog soup is next.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by KC911

Seems like a little cannister of pepper spray would be the thing for you guys with bad dawg encounters to carry?

Hult. Been around a ling time. I use to have one when I want out riding. Bitten twice when riding but been chased many times. Hult doesn't work. I tried. it only works when you get 'em right in the nose or the face. during panic situation, my aim is all over the place.

[livi]

Aggressive dogs should be put down. Period.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Baz

Fixed.

Dog didn't do anything wrong. Why kick it?

I love animals almost as much as you.
The dog bit him and broke the skin. The dog needs to be taught that is not OK. You can fend a dog off with your foot without hurting the dog, sort of mock kicks. I'd have used the bike as a shield so the dog wouldn't have been able to get close enough to bite me.

You can "kick" a dog without kicking a dog, if you get my drift. If it's a "strange" dog that's attacking you, get it's attention. I'd never try to actually injure the dog, just get it's attention and convince it to keep it's distance. If it was a dog that seemed intent on bodily harm, and seemed like it had a good chance PB, GSD, whatever, I'll escalate as needed. I REALLY love animals. They are on the whole, better than people. I've found copperheads in our yard, and I've never killed one, but have gently relocated them.

But if I felt like it came down to a "them or me," I'm going to win every time. If something is attacking you, yeah, you may want to do great harm to the owner, but I'm going to ensure that I stop the attack first, then worry about the owner.

It's all about perspective. It's not unusual for people to say "I could kill her for saying that" or other similar things, but most of those things almost never happen (1 in a million or maybe 100 million or billion?). If I say "I'd kick/launch the dog" I mean I'd keep from getting bitten. If the dog will not take "no" for an answer, I'll escalate until it does. If I had to kill a dog to keep from being killed, that would REALLY suck, but eventually once all other options were exhausted, that's what would happen.

[GH85Carrera]

One of our neighbors several houses down regularly walks her two dogs. She always carries a carries some plastic baggies for the occasional droppings. She also has a police style baton that is collapsible. It opens up to a formidable stick. She also carries a can of pepper spray. All of that is totally legal to have on her. She has had to use the stick on one aggressive dog. Of course she has her cell phone with her as well.

[Cajundaddy]

Yes dogs can sense fear whether it is a scent or body language. Stand your ground and never run as it triggers their predator-prey instinct. If a dog is barking I talk to them firmly using commands they probably know. If a dog lunges toward me I put something between us if possible like a bike, helmet, tools, stick to impede their lunge.

If a dog actually is able to bite me they get whacked. period. The dog is out of control and needs to have consequences it understands. Also they get turned in to the humane society, will be put on a 10 day rabies quarantine, and the owner fined. The owner needs to understand that an out of control dog is not ok and there will be consequences. Dogs need to be under control at all times whether leashed or on command. There is no room for an out of control dog with red mist that ends in violence.

[masraum]

I never carried anything, but then I'm not afraid of dogs and have never had an experience that made that feel necessary, and most places that I've lived have not had pitbulls. It's actually interesting, I've seen very few PB in public, both in our old neighborhod and when we lived in town.

One night I was walking a dog and had a very calm, but super persistently curious PB want to approach and sniff my female dog (~35# and kind of skittish, if another dog "got fresh" she'd bark and snap, which often sets other dogs off). It was one of those super compact PB, probably several inches shorter than my dog, but 10-15# heavier, and looked like a linebacker. I was able to keep myself between the two dogs. I was able to stoop down and grab the collar of the PB and even pet it. My dog stayed behind me. I kept this up for what felt like 30 mins, but was probably 5-10 mins. Eventually, the other dog lost interest, and we were able to slowly walk away while watching the other dog.

Another time, we were walking both dogs, the 35# dog mentioned above and our 12# dachshund. There was a big golden retriever that loved people in a chainlink fence across the street. It was always super friendly and wanted attention, but this night, it squeezed between a gap in the gate and charged us. It seemed to be focus on the dachshund. Maybe in the dark it thought he was a cat. My wife was able to grab Sherlock (who pooped down her side), and I was eventually able to grab the GR. The barking (3 dogs), yelling (me), and screaming and yelling (the missus) got the attention of the owners who retrieved it. That was the only time we ever had an issue with that dog.

[flatbutt]

For small dogs I find that yelling and advancing on them always works. On the bike however I just up the pace and hope I get away.

[red 928]

Just tell your insurance company about it.
They'll go after her like a pit-bull on its owner.

I was checked out after a dog bite (stray)
a few years back.
My medical insurance company was calling near
non-stop to get more details on who's dog it was
where it came from, where it went, etc.

But don't ever let your homeowner's insurance company
know that YOUR dog bit someone
unless you want your insurance cancelled.

But HER insurance company
needs to know about this ....

[look 171]

Originally Posted by red 928

Just tell your insurance company about it.
They'll go after her like a pit-bull on its owner.

I was checked out after a dog bite (stray)
a few years back.
My medical insurance company was calling near
non-stop to get more details on who's dog it was
where it came from, where it went, etc.

But don't ever let your homeowner's insurance company
know that YOUR dog bit someone
unless you want your insurance cancelled.

But HER insurance company
needs to know about this ....

Interesting. Never knew that

[look 171]

Next time if this 'lil dog get near me growing and barking, I am ready to let him taste my Asics running shoe if he comes for his daily teeth cleaning on my skin. I can't believe how fast that dog can run around my bike to take a bite of my leg. The minute he came around the back wheel of my bike, I had no way to defend myself, no where to run unless I drop my bike. Weren't going to do that to my new bike. I wonder what made it do that? I never saw it run up to my truck then suddenly he appeared as I started walking across the street. I know its barked at me before only the owner picked it up and carried it keeping it from running off.

[red 928]

Originally Posted by look 171

Interesting. Never knew that

There are some homeowner's insurance companies
that refuse to insure anyone with a pit bull,
Doberman, German Shepard, rot, etc.

If they find out you have a dog that bites,
they likely won't want to continue that liability.

[Cajundaddy]

One of my employees had a Pomeranian that was completely nuts. He couldn't leave the dog home alone because he would destroy the apartment so he brought him to work instead. Great.

This dog was loose in our service yard and generally stayed out of trouble but one day I walked back there for a tool or something and he came up to me. I reached down to pet him and he immediately bit my hand. Not just a warning bite but he was attempting to remove my fingers. I got him unlatched and hurled him maybe 10'. As soon as he hit the ground he regrouped and charged me again. This time he got the full impact of my work boot and launched a long way landing on his head. A little dazed, he got up and began to charge again but realized the boot was ready to deliver another blow and thought better of it.

Probably the most aggressive dog encounter I ever had and he was maybe only 15lbs. This dog was totally out of control and not invited back.

[stevej37]

some dogs just don't understand or like bikes.
If you are riding or pushing it...you are part of it.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy

One of my employees had a Pomeranian that was completely nuts. He couldn't leave the dog home alone because he would destroy the apartment so he brought him to work instead. Great.

This dog was loose in our service yard and generally stayed out of trouble but one day I walked back there for a tool or something and he came up to me. I reached down to pet him and he immediately bit my hand. Not just a warning bite but he was attempting to remove my fingers. I got him unlatched and hurled him maybe 10'. As soon as he hit the ground he regrouped and charged me again. This time he got the full impact of my work boot and launched a long way landing on his head. A little dazed, he got up and began to charge again but realized the boot was ready to deliver another blow and thought better of it.

Probably the most aggressive dog encounter I ever had and he was maybe only 15lbs. This dog was totally out of control and not invited back.

Sounds like what I had to deal with, a crazy dog. Only difference was that after he bit me, he walked away casually like nothing had happened after I try shaking it off me

[look 171]

Originally Posted by stevej37

some dogs just don't understand or like bikes.
If you are riding or pushing it...you are part of it.

Like I said, dog soup.

[stevej37]

^^^ I totally agree.