Getting back into cycling

[look 171]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

The little details...

You win, man. Where do you find these things. They are beautiful.

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by look 171

You win, man. Where do you find these things. They are beautiful.

Most of the photos I post are my own but that one in particular wasn't.

The ones that aren't mine? : Goofing off when I'm supposed to be working.

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Originally Posted by otto_kretschmer

I'm still finding more problems. The fork is still about an 1/8" too short. I'm going to take the crown race off and chuck the fork in the lathe again and take some more metal off the shoulder at the crown. Right now the locknut on the headset has no more than two threads. I'd like to get at least five threads and then put it together with red loctite.

Good luck. Build is looking good. Was that the original fork with the bike? I can't remember. Watch out for taking too much off,- anything taken off the bottom of the frame(or the top of the shoulder) might steepen your headtube angle? Maybe, maybe not? I was thinking about this a bit today and wondering if your new headset takes up more vertical real estate than the original.

I dunno. Just thinking out loud.

In other news, you've inspired me to go paint frankenbike, which I pulled out of a neighbor's trash can 20 years ago. A trek 930 which has seen thousands of miles. It's latest trinket are some inverted nitto bars.

I grabbed a can of rustoleum, shot as much I could without extreme overspray, and liking the look, will strip the bike down to frame, sandblast it, and shoot a real coat here soon. :



Also got some new RH tires for my ol' school mtb- As the gravel roads here dry up and become washboard, this bike is a hoot. Ridiculously 90's


And starting to set up bike racks to get some of this stuff off the floor. This weekend, a second set of racks go up. There are 11+ bikes laying around:



Summer solstice gets my biking on in full gear.I wants tooo get out and enjoy every second of it!

[sc_rufctr]

Paul is doing a limited Pewter release (the project cogs are turning... lol).

[jim72911t]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Paul is doing a limited Pewter release (the project cogs are turning... lol).

I was the one who originally started anodizing my Paul parts pewter, way back when. When I would make a prototype, it would go on my bikes raw at first, and then, as the project got closer to production, I’d do pewter to distinguish them from the stuff customers could buy.

[sc_rufctr]

Wow... Cool

[sc_rufctr]

Good stuff from Calvin at Park Tools. "Old School" steel frame build.

Learn Something New From An Old Bike | Tech Tuesday #220



The Life of a Race Bike - Bones and Beginnings | Tech Tuesday #219

[otto_kretschmer]

Who has experience with fancy hubs?

I never heard of Chris King until I started this build.

Now the more I'm looking into them I notice that Campagnolo doesn't build hubs anymore. They got out of that part of the market.

Chris King



look nice, pricey, light

Phil Wood



Industry 9



All very nice and I have heard of Phil Wood before but these are essentially Boutique Hubs.

I bought a partial Shimano 105 groupset and I have a set of 105 hubs that are almost identical to the Campagnolo hubs I used to build the wheels.

I'd like to build a gravel bike next and I'm considering a few things like disc brakes.

Are these hubs worth it to you guys? Do you like the extra noise some of them make?

[MFAFF]

Chris Kings are easy to service and overhaul (provided you have access to the correct tools etc); that makes them long lived and therefore cheap/ mile ridden... year ridden etc.

Noise is reasonably straightforward to reduce if you want to... slightly heavier grease in the free hub and the noise is much less intrusive... if that is what you like.

[sc_rufctr]

... Or just keep pedaling so you never hear the racket.

[jim72911t]

White Industries makes beautiful hubs as well.

[sc_rufctr]

"Campagnolo" Square Taper BB - 120mm. #philwoodco

(Edit: You shouldn't mix the two square tapper standards, Campagnolo - ISO and Japanese - JIS)

[look 171]

I like Chris King hubs and had them one tome or another as well as White Ind. and Campy. This was a time when I was chasing grams and racing so everything counted. I now just buy the wheels, Zipp, Envy and such. whatever hub they come with, I am sure they are good as long as its their top of the line wheels. I had carbon hubs failed on me so the fancier you go, that means lightest, there always the possibility of them going bad due to the lack of materials. King hubs are normally pretty good. The question I have for you is, does a hub like that matter in terms of performance too you? If I am building a set of traditional wheels like you, Shimano Ultegra hub or DuraAce will be laced to that set of wheels. Not fancy King or White Industry or any of the smaller mfg hubs. The performance envelope is negligible. Oh, want to get fancy, get ceramic bearings.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

... Or just keep pedaling so you never hear the racket.

Yep, all you hear is your heart beating out of your chest.

I started riding last week with my bionic brace for my knee. Its been jsut 7 weeks off the bike. Its a btich riding with the brace due restriction from the brace's limited knee angle. Not to mention it hits the top tube. I bought a slightly less cumbersome brace so now it manageable. Did 80 combined miles last week breaking it up to 20 miles per ride. I tried to keep my usual pace of under one hour on my 20 mile loop with a couple of small hills. No go. My heart and lung was about to come put of my chest, was all I heard. Getting old sucks. Going out again in a few to try to make that under an hour. After that, I have hump up my one mile hill to my front door. Got to get it done.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by look 171

I like Chris King hubs and had them one tome or another as well as White Ind. and Campy. This was a time when I was chasing grams and racing so everything counted. I now just buy the wheels, Zipp, Envy and such. whatever hub they come with, I am sure they are good as long as its their top of the line wheels. I had carbon hubs failed on me so the fancier you go, that means lightest, there always the possibility of them going bad due to the lack of materials. King hubs are normally pretty good. The question I have for you is, does a hub like that matter in terms of performance too you? If I am building a set of traditional wheels like you, Shimano Ultegra hub or DuraAce will be laced to that set of wheels. Not fancy King or White Industry or any of the smaller mfg hubs. The performance envelope is negligible. Oh, want to get fancy, get ceramic bearings.

I'm not a fan of how loud the CK freehubs are at all, and I hate being behind or around someone who has 'em, or any really loud freehubs. Just annoying as all hell to hear that "WHRRRRRRCLACKCLACKCLACKCLACKWHRRRR" on group rides.

Wheeee! Look at meeeeeee! I'm riding a bike!!

[look 171]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

I'm not a fan of how loud the CK freehubs are at all, and I hate being behind or around someone who has 'em, or any really loud freehubs. Just annoying as all hell to hear that "WHRRRRRRCLACKCLACKCLACKCLACKWHRRRR" on group rides.

Wheeee! Look at meeeeeee! I'm riding a bike!!

I have taken them apart to silence them with a bit grease. I hate them too because you can't sneak up on someone to sit on their wheels for a bit. Once they hear ya, they flip their arm to get me to take my turn. Hey, I am like an arm chair, sitting in is my middle name

Hey, they are good hubs. They aren't on my first list of hub buy

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by look 171

Yep, all you hear is your heart beating out of your chest.

I started riding last week with my bionic brace for my knee. Its been jsut 7 weeks off the bike. Its a btich riding with the brace due restriction from the brace's limited knee angle. Not to mention it hits the top tube. I bought a slightly less cumbersome brace so now it manageable. Did 80 combined miles last week breaking it up to 20 miles per ride. I tried to keep my usual pace of under one hour on my 20 mile loop with a couple of small hills. No go. My heart and lung was about to come put of my chest, was all I heard. Getting old sucks. Going out again in a few to try to make that under an hour. After that, I have hump up my one mile hill to my front door. Got to get it done.

Just keep going... "I'm getting better not older"

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by look 171

Yep, all you hear is your heart beating out of your chest.

I started riding last week with my bionic brace for my knee. Its been jsut 7 weeks off the bike. Its a btich riding with the brace due restriction from the brace's limited knee angle. Not to mention it hits the top tube. I bought a slightly less cumbersome brace so now it manageable. Did 80 combined miles last week breaking it up to 20 miles per ride. I tried to keep my usual pace of under one hour on my 20 mile loop with a couple of small hills. No go. My heart and lung was about to come put of my chest, was all I heard. Getting old sucks. Going out again in a few to try to make that under an hour. After that, I have hump up my one mile hill to my front door. Got to get it done.

FWIW, you're probably still one of the fastest guys on this BBS even with your brace. My flat rides with modest hills will touch 19 mph average, but usually I'm about a 17mph rider and here's the thing - I'm on the downslope. One hill I frequent has given me a PB of 6:47. I did it the other day, it felt like I was flying but only clocked a 7:53. A full minute slower. And I'm in my "summer riding shape" right now; sometimes I'm in the 9 minute range. Keep up your training!

[otto_kretschmer]

Originally Posted by look 171

The question I have for you is, does a hub like that matter in terms of performance too you?

naaa.. just bling

they are pretty and if I have the coin, well maybe

its going to be a while

I want to build the frame, butted steel tubes fillet brazed

[otto_kretschmer]

Here is the status of the apparatus



It's a tall frame. I see why modern bikes no longer have the top tube parallel to the ground.

Bars are coming and I decided to go to a longer brake instead of using a drop bolt.

I'm using 700x32 tires. Nothing bigger will fit the chain stays so I got lucky choosing them.