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cashflyer 10-26-2005 08:10 AM

Z-man got it. The 1964 Dodge Charger "Roadster Concept". And yes, that things got a Hemi in it. I have seen a few of these on the web, which I found odd since it was never put into production. //www.jalopnik.com/cars/concept-cars/1964-dodge-charger-concept-119299.php

Here's a car that I would absolutely love to own. But with only 114 ever built, owning one is improbable. I would gladly settle for an afternoon of spirited driving, tho! A tight independent suspension accounted for it's ability to beat down the exotic sports cars of the day when racing on twisting road courses.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130342832.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130342845.jpg

notfarnow 10-26-2005 08:26 AM

Pegaso?

cashflyer 10-26-2005 09:21 AM

Correct decade, but no.
The 1956 Pegaso Z-103 certainly shares some design cues!


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130347142.jpg

cashflyer 10-27-2005 06:01 AM

answer
 
Wow... only one attempt to identify!?
The green car posted above is a 1952 Fiat Otto Vu (8V), bodied by Zagato. Of the 114 8Vs produced, some Zagatos were as pictured, and some were "second design" to meet GT racing rules of the day - with higher cabs and a different, 4-headlight front end. And some of the 114 8Vs were bodied by Vignale. So my chances of finding one of the 1st design Zagato 8Vs is pretty slim. So much for that dream, I guess :(

Quote:

In that era, Fiat was a pioneer at coupling interesting chassis with unusual powertrains. In the early 1950s Fiat stunned the Italian automotive community with its 2.0-liter V8, an engine built to race.

Maserati, Ferrari and Lancia were highly regarded in auto racing during this period, and it was into this contentious field of Italian carmakers Fiat ventured with the odd and controversial Otto Vu. But The Otto Vu’s aerodynamic shape was the result of extensive wind tunnel testing, which would translate into rewarding returns at the track when it won the Italian Championship in 1954.

The 8V incorporated a 70-degree V design that produced 105 hp. This seems meager by today’s standards, but the 8V performed quite well in a vehicle that weighed just 2000 pounds.

The chassis and suspension provided handling that can only be described as poetry. On tight and twisting roads, the car had no equal. Which is why the Otto Vu proved such a challenge to the Maseratis and Ferraris of the day.

The Otto Vu was Fiat’s sole V8-powered car, and it symbolizes the company’s racing triumph, brief though it was.
Maybe I'll settle for one of these. Plenty of them still available at reasonable prices!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130421168.jpg

notfarnow 10-27-2005 06:05 AM

Moretti. I remember reading about the low mileage one found in a Fiat dealer's barn. Based on the Fiat 850, no?

Z-man 10-27-2005 06:17 AM

cashflyer: Fiat Dino Spider?

notfarnow 10-27-2005 06:24 AM

damn it... zman got it before I had a chance to change my answer. Should have noticed the wheels.

Steve Carlton 10-27-2005 06:42 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130424150.jpg

}{arlequin 10-27-2005 06:50 AM

i love fiat spyders... but same as w/ alfas, anything that vintage is just as bad w/ rust and maintenance as longhoods

Doug&Julie 10-27-2005 06:52 AM

...meanwhile, in the RANDOM picture thread...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130424773.jpg

notfarnow 10-27-2005 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by }{arlequin
i love fiat spyders... but same as w/ alfas, anything that vintage is just as bad w/ rust and maintenance as longhoods
I bought a 1970 fiat 850 Sedan 5 years ago for $400. It had only 26000 kms, and drove beautifully. The PO had "restored" it with roadsigns, rivets and roofing tar underneath. Up top, he used cardboard (I kid you not) fiberglass and very, very thick paint. I drove it for a few months, but knew I'd never be able to get a valid safety inspection. I was renting a house without a garage at the time, so there was no way I could tackle fixing it. Sold it for $700, only time I EVER made money on a car.

Now that I have a garage I'd love to have it again. It was a fun car, and the only one I'd ever seen. All the meachanical bits were the same as an 850 spyder, so you could still get parts

This is not the one I had, but a reasonable facsimile:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130427008.jpg

cashflyer 10-27-2005 08:25 AM

notfarnow... Close. Moretti's were based on a Fiat platform, but they were only available as hard-tops and were powered by the standard Fiat 1.6L TC engine. z-man got it! It's a Fiat Dino Spider, and I believe it is a 1968 judging by the sidemarker position. Known by some as the "poor man's Ferrari" since it was jointly developed by the two companies, and since it featured the Ferrari V-6 powerplant.

Six pages of info, starting here:
http://www.ritzsite.net/Fiat_Dino/01_Fiat_Dino.htm
(I think this site features the same car that I posted)

D&J - Nice curves, and very racey looking with the checkers! I'm guessing manufactured around 1980-ish. Sure would like some "spirited" driving with that ride...

I currently own a 1975 Fiat 124 Spider, and }{arlequins comment about rust really strikes home. After I first bought the car, my first task was to remove the interior and have the floor pan sandblasted. I had to weld in new floor pans and seat rails, and had the floor coated with Rhino-Liner to prevent future rust. It's now solid and a lot of fun to drive (but not as much fun as the 911:) ). Maintenance, though, I have had no trouble with. I've been driving it for approx 4 years and have had no breakdowns.

Some more Italians that I like:

This Fiat 500 just looks like a lot of (slow) fun!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130429215.jpg

A one-off prototype, producing 300hp @ 20k rpm? It must be a ___________.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130429238.jpg

Another concept car, it was the first car ever featuring scissor doors. It's a 1968 ____________.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130429261.jpg

notfarnow 10-27-2005 08:35 AM

That one I know... Alfa Carabo.

Ok... I'll let others play now... back to work.

widebody911 10-27-2005 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cashflyer
Some more Italians that I like:

http://www.casym.com.ar/images/Multipla/DCP_0024.jpg

swbsam 10-27-2005 09:04 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130432400.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130432527.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130432607.jpg


here's the site = http://www.amon.dsl.pipex.com/index.htm

cashflyer 10-27-2005 09:09 AM

The Italian answer to the VW-Bus, manufactured 1956-1969. I know the answer, but I'll let somebody else guess. (what year is the one you have pictured? They didn't change much from year to year...)

notfarnow is absolutely correct on the flat, green wedge. It is tha Alfa Romeo "Carabo" (Italian for Beetle). It was the first to use scissor hinged doors, and is believed to have inspired Lamborghini in the design of the Countach. It is known that he attended the 1968 Turin auto show and that he commented about the style and engineering of the car.

Still no guess on the red/white car? Wow.... what a redline!

KobaltBlau 10-27-2005 09:30 AM

is the green one the BMW M1 prototype, with the turbo four? Reminds me of the lancia stratos prototype, but that it definitely isn't. I know the red and white 20k rpm one and the "bus" but I'll let others think about it.

}{arlequin 10-27-2005 09:46 AM

cash... any chance you can post some pics of your 124?
(ever plan on selling it? ;) )

I also like the 500's. They are really fun. Maybe even an Abarth clone will make it to my garage someday. Can't beat it for running around town.

cashflyer 10-27-2005 09:48 AM

The BMW-M1 was also a flat, angular design, but not nearly this flat.
Also, I think the BMW came along a few years later.

Anyway, I had gone back and edited my previous post to give credit to 'notfarnow'.
I must have been editing at the same time you were posting. sorry 'bout that.


Here is a good page with pics of the Lancia Stratos prototype, as well as several other flat cars. (guess I won't upload the stratos as a mystery car now!) 70's Supercars

cashflyer 10-27-2005 10:01 AM

}{arlequin:

Here it is during the stripdown process. You can see the rust in the floors, but you can't really tell from the photo exactly how bad it was. Lots of "questionable" metal was eventually cut out before new metal was welded in. Even the trailing link plates had to be reinforced.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130435598.jpg

During repainting
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130435729.jpg

It did get reassembled, and an all new interior was installed. Unfortunately, the budget ran dry shortly after and I never finished it. I drive it a few days every week, but it currently has the center console out, a few dash panels missing, a cherry-bomb muffler attached with coat hanger wire, etc. I think now I am just waiting for 5th gear to finally go out, or the engine to die. These major items will give me the incentive to finally take it back off the road and finish it.

Sorry, no current pics. And if I do have pics, I probably would not show them due to the poor care I've taken these last few years. It's dirty, it has a nice parking-lot wack in the rt rear quarter, and it still has those fugly wheels on it! (without the plastic)

And no, I've got too much time in it to sell it. Besides, you can find really nice ones for the cheap in eBay!


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