what protest is "OK"?

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by lendaddy
So I can't support the war effort without enlisting? Is that the jist of this?

Or maybe that I can but I shouldn't?

No, it is they (the leftists) who should not...Since the military by-and-large disagrees with them...So they should STFU.

[skipdup]

Originally posted by turbocarrera
You should buy that doctor a beer - might have saved your life along with some Iraqi children.

Bryan was almost a baby killer and didn't even know it.

[turbocarrera]

Originally posted by nostatic
... If one cannot protest because it will kill our soldiers, then perhaps one cannot support the war without going and helping directly...

Game, set, match.

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by nostatic
Maybe. If one cannot protest because it will kill our soldiers, then perhaps one cannot support the war without going and helping directly.

Todd, that's not even a complete thought. Because........

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by turbocarrera
Game, set, match.

You may want to think about stopping your personal consumption of Canada's largest export.

[skipdup]

Just watched an interview with Gen. Richard Meyers... Speaking of Al Qaeda and Iraq...

"They know they can't defeat us militarily. They can not. Absolutely can not. They've never won a tactical battle with us in any of the last four years. The only way they can defeat us, the only way they can defeat the United States and the International community, is if we loose our resolve, our patience, if you will, our will, to uh, persevere. That's the only way they can be successful."

Why does that sound so familiar?

[Racerbvd]

Looks like another answer.

"I would like to say to Cindy Sheehan and her supporters don't be a group of unthinking lemmings. It's not pretty," said Mitzy Kenny of Ridgeley, W.Va., whose husband died in Iraq last year. The anti-war demonstrations "can affect the war in a really negative way. It gives the enemy hope."



http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-09-26-sheehanarrested_x.htm

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by skipdup
Just watched an interview with Gen. Richard Meyers... Speaking of Al Qaeda and Iraq...

"They know they can't defeat us militarily. They can not. Absolutely can not. They've never won a tactical battle with us in any of the last four years. The only way they can defeat us, the only way they can defeat the United States and the International community, is if we loose our resolve, our patience, if you will, our will, to uh, persevere. That's the only way they can be successful."

Why does that sound so familiar?

Actually Al Qaeda's stated goal for for defeat of the U.S. is to hurt us economically.....

Is it working?

I'm not sure where Myers is getting his information to come up with his assessment....

[Rodeo]

Skip, you and Gen. Meyers are right, and I'm sorry to say that we already lost Iraq. Look at the poll numbers. Stick a fork in it, the Iraq effort is dead.

The only thing to do now is try to concentrate on the larger war on terrorism. And hope that this debacle didn't hurt us too badly (but of course it did).

Unlike others here, I don't blame Cindy Sheehan and her band of dysfunctional followers. Like almost every other failure in the past 5 years, this was a failure of leadership. Iraq poll numbers are not in the low 30's because of some protesters on the National Mall, don't kid yourself.

The American people are through with Iraq because this President failed to anticipate the effort that would be required, and failed to prepare the people for that effort. He asked for no sacrifice from us, instead acting like some cheap car salesman, telling us, in essence, that we could get something for nothing. We would be met by Iraqis with flowers, their oil would pay for reconstruction, the rag-tag "dead-enders" were in their last throes, and on and on and on.

Finally the American people just got up and walked out.

Guys like Mul and Flint will blame Cindy Sheehan, silly as that sounds. Thinking people know who to blame, and its not some mother of a dead soldier.

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by cool_chick
Actually Al Qaeda's stated goal for for defeat of the U.S. is to hurt us economically.....

Is it working?

I'm not sure where Myers is getting his information to come up with his assessment....

Yes indeed, where does he get his information

Good grief do you hurt my head sometimes.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by lendaddy
Yes indeed, where does he get his information

Good grief do you hurt my head sometimes.

Sorry your head hurts.

Can you answer the question now?

This, to me, smells of some sort of damage control in response to these goofy protestors....

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by cool_chick
Sorry your head hurts.

Can you answer the question now?

This, to me, smells of some sort of damage control in response to these goofy protestors....

In the unlikely event you're not kidding or just being obtuse I would say:

Perhaps he gets his information..........first fukcing hand, on the ground, managing the very operation you proport to know the current state of. And all this while painting your toenails no doubt.

I'm cracking a bottle of wine now to ease the pain, I hope you're happy.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by lendaddy
In the unlikely event you're not kidding or just being obtuse I would say:

Perhaps he gets his information..........first fukcing hand, on the ground, managing the very operation you proport to know the current state of. And all this while painting your toenails no doubt.

I'm cracking a bottle of wine now to ease the pain, I hope you're happy.

So he knows that we'll lose the war if we don't do anything, right?

LOL


This comment by Myers is CLASSIC.

You're right, the more I think about it.....

That was one downright stupid comment.

Too funny.

Classic.



And actually I have a place in my building that gives pedicures, just had one last Friday, but thank you for your well wishes.

[cool_chick]

And sidenote, he forgot about the stated Al Qaeda goal, which is a good point (see Soviet Union). Guess he didn't gather enough information before making his "assessment."

LMAO

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by cool_chick
So he knows that we'll lose the war if we don't do anything, right?

LOL


This comment by Myers is CLASSIC.

You're right, the more I think about it.....

That was one downright stupid comment.

Too funny.

Classic.

Perhaps after 1/2 this bottle the above will make some form of sense to me, I'm sure you were going for something...

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by lendaddy
Perhaps after 1/2 this bottle the above will make some form of sense to me, I'm sure you were going for something...

LOL

Didn't know you had a reading problem as well. I'm so sorry.

[skipdup]

Originally posted by Rodeo
...
The American people are through with Iraq because this President failed to anticipate the effort that would be required, and failed to prepare the people for that effort. He asked for no sacrifice from us, instead acting like some cheap car salesman, telling us, in essence, that we could get something for nothing. We would be met by Iraqis with flowers, their oil would pay for reconstruction, the rag-tag "dead-enders" were in their last throes, and on and on and on.
...

Respectfully... What in the world are you talking about?

I don't remember the president saying any of these things. I do remember the president telling how hard the road ahead will be, etc...

You may be right about the war being lost. But it is shameful to me that we could loose such an important war based on the stomach of a soft citizenry.

What do you think will happen if you're right? Think all the terrorists in Iraq will just go home? Do you think we will all be safe if we just give up on Iraq? How many in Iraq do you suppose will be murdered for being sympathetic to the US?

- Skip

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by cool_chick
LOL

Didn't know you had a reading problem as well. I'm so sorry.

I think it's a dialect comprehension problem really, I don't speak bitter, oft-scorned,self-absorbed, middle-aged, single-chick

Edit: Yea almost forgot LOL, LOL, ROFLMAO..etc...etc...

[stuartj]

Originally posted by fintstone
No normal person listens to a "tool" like Sheehan. The only people she is "convincing" are those who were already convinced. She is just another loud mouthed loser....a sad joke....as pathetic as the party she represents.

What a thing- for someone who no doubt considers himself a patriot- to say of a woman that has given her son in the service of her country.

Regardless of what you think of her politics, your lack of respect reflects very poorly on you.

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by skipdup
Respectfully... What in the world are you talking about?

I don't remember the president saying any of these things. I do remember the president telling how hard the road ahead will be, etc...

You may be right about the war being lost. But it is shameful to me that we could loose such an important war based on the stomach of a soft citizenry.

What do you think will happen if you're right? Think all the terrorists in Iraq will just go home? Do you think we will all be safe if we just give up on Iraq? How many in Iraq do you suppose will be murdered for being sympathetic to the US?

- Skip

Well, it’s more than disappointment. It eats me up inside, it makes me worry for my kids, and it makes me mourn for our proud country. I wish calling Cindy Sheehan names would make me feel better, but I'm not that kind of person. I want leadership in this country. What we have is not even close. We are not a soft people, but we have a soft and lazy leadership.

I'm surprised you don't remember the disconnect between the rosy picture being painted in the White House and the news "on the ground." There was a debate, for a while anyway, over whether the "liberal media" was giving us nothing but doom and gloom stories while the administration was positive and upbeat. Anyway, that debate did not last long as it became more and more plain that Iraq was and is a colossal nightmare.

I collected a few quotes for you backing up my original post. Could not find one actually saying that we would be met with flowers, but I remember it. Maybe it came from the media, though.

Vice President Dick Cheney promised on NBC's Meet the Press that "We will be greeted as liberators,"

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz predicted that the "Iraqis would welcome a U.S. invading force"

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz: “There’s a lot of money to pay for this that doesn’t have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people…and on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years…We’re dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.” [Source: House Committee on Appropriations Hearing on a Supplemental War Regulation, 3/27/03]

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld: “I don't believe that the United States has the responsibility for reconstruction, in a sense…[Reconstruction] funds can come from those various sources I mentioned: frozen assets, oil revenues and a variety of other things, including the Oil for Food, which has a very substantial number of billions of dollars in it. [Source: Senate Appropriations Hearing, 3/27/03]

Monday, June 20, 2005; The insurgency in Iraq is "in the last throes," Vice President Dick Cheney says … in a wide-ranging interview Monday on CNN's "Larry King Live"