Republicans on the ropes

[stevepaa]

Well. Back to the question. Conviction for personnel in WH administrations.

I could not find any convictions in Eisenhower, Kenedy or Johnson.
Under Nixon I found 12
None under Ford or Carter.
Reagan had North and Poindexter convicted, but were overturned on appeal because they had been given immunity.
Did you find any under Clinton?

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by techweenie
Reagan administration still has the greatest number of convictions, AFAIK: 32

As for Clinton's,

47 for Clinton...None for doing good, as Reagan's were...The Boland Amendment was manufactured by the pro-communist Democrats to stop aid to the Contras (14 Reagan "era" convictions were HUD, not Republicans by any stretch).

[stevepaa]

You have links for those numbers?

[Mulhollanddose]

Bill Clinton crimes topped Nixon's...Hillary learnt good how to get away with murder while prosecuting Nixon.

[nostatic]

got any gum?

[stevepaa]

So no links for convictions?

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by stevepaa
You have links for those numbers?

I don't remember...

Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar.

Bill Kennedy 116
Harold Ickes 148
Ricki Seidman 160
Bruce Lindsey 161
Bill Burton 191
Mark Gearan 221
Mack McLarty 233
Neil Egglseston 250
Hillary Clinton 250
John Podesta 264
Jennifer O'Connor 343
Dwight Holton 348
Patsy Thomasson 420
Jeff Eller 697

[stevepaa]

So no links for convictions.

I gotta remind myself not try to argue with someone who was still in diapers when I was supporting Nixon and my friends worked at the convention.

[Superman]

Steve, I'm sure it only LOOKS like Mul was talking out of his @ss.

[techweenie]

I think if you added up all those 'don't recalls' alleged to Democrats, the total would still be less than Reagan's testimony in Iran-Contra.

But again, context and punctuation have a lot to do with it. The neocons spent $60 million trying to 'get' Bill & Hil. Then when Ken Starr pronounced the cupboard bare, they turned on him.

Was Clinton lying about a BJ worse than Dubya lying about his NG service? Maybe a little...

[fintstone]

Originally posted by techweenie
...
Was Clinton lying about a BJ worse than Dubya lying about his NG service? Maybe a little...

You are confused. Clinton lied about his BJ (under oath) while the democrats lied about Bush's national guard record (and forged fake documents).

Kerry is the one who lied about his military record when he promised to release all of them.

[techweenie]

Originally posted by fintstone
You are confused. Clinton lied about his BJ (under oath) while the democrats lied about Bush's national guard record (and forged fake documents).

Projecting a bit?

Did you read Dubya's autobiography? I din't think so. Try some research instead of just parroting what the RNC tells you. You will be less confused.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by fintstone
You are confused. Clinton lied about his BJ (under oath) while the democrats lied about Bush's national guard record (and forged fake documents).

Kerry is the one who lied about his military record when he promised to release all of them.

Dammit Flint, do not bring up facts to the Democrats! It gets them confused. The like smoke and mirrors a lot more...

JoeA

[techweenie]

Lame, lame, lame.

Bush released a few pieces of paper -- some heavily edited -- on his "service" in the TNG. Other records were rumored destroyed. But it's clear he didn't 'continue flying for two years' as his autobiography claimed.

And in case you missed it -- and why would your handlers tell you? Kerry made available the few remaining documents from his service records last Summer. And what revelations were there?

Read if you care:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/06/07/kerry_allows_navy_release_of_military_medical_reco rds/

Nothing in Kerry's records was anywhere near as negative as this from Dubya's:

[fintstone]

You are wrong. Bush signed the document to release all his records. And they were released. He did not pick-and-choose which one came out.

Yeah, take another look at your document, more BS. They blanked out the other guy's social security numbers after their names because federal law requires it...duh

Oh, and being suspended from flying for missing a physical...is pretty common in the guard or reserve. Heck, I was late for my last reserve physical due to scheduling problems...and was briefly limited from deployment...no big deal. It is not unusual.

No, Kerry did not release all his military records as promised. He only released the active duty ones. It is his reserve (military) records that we are interested in. You know...the period when he was meeting with the enemy leadership in Paris, protesting, and lying about his felklow soldier's "war crimes" in Vietnam.

[Mulhollanddose]

Kerry didn't release his records...Surely they indicate he committed treason by consorting with the enemy.

[rrpjr]

Kerry refused to release his academic transcripts throughout the campaign, and finally did so only in June. Perhaps because they revealed that George Bush outperformed him at Yale.

The suspicion of vanity seems confirmed by what accompanied the transcripts.

[fintstone]

I guess it is just so embarrassing when you find out that the fellow that you have represented as the stupidest man on the planet had a better GPA in college.....or that you got a bad discharge when you represent yourself as a war hero.

[techweenie]

You read it here first, folks.

Pawlenty Says Party is "On the Ropes"

In an interview, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) "acknowledged that his party is 'on the ropes' nationally and that he would consider himself 'lucky to get reelected,'" the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports. "Pawlenty denied that he has any national political ambitions and downplayed the notion that Minnesota had trended Republican."

Pawlenty joked: "I hope voters are smart enough to know that I'm not involved in the Valerie Plame affair; I didn't leak the name of a covert agent."

[jorian]

Yo Pawlenty,

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