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[cool_chick]

Originally posted by livi
I am not religious, but I always felt religious belief ought to be something utterly personal. I have always felt that if religion is something dictated by others there is something inherently, paradoxically wrong. If all religious believers blindly follow a few leaders rules, forced to apply other peoples claim of whats right or wrong - then itīs bordering on simple dictatorship. When the Muslim Mullah regard a Danish drawing as a gross insult, issuing death penalties - there is something dangerously wrong if believers without thinking for them selves, blindly go along.

I sense there is a lurking risk with religion being rigidly structured in a strict hierarchy, ruled by a single (or few) persons who claim they have supreme right to dictate whats morally right or wrong.

I am sincerely grateful the Pooop does not have a military force at his non democratic dictatorship. Unfortunately, many Muslim Pooops do. Which in my book presents the biggest threat to world peace currently.

FTR, I have not found a faith that explains differently. They all say it's a personal thing to strive for. I've only seen various men's interpretation of it to mean something else.

Hope that answers your question as well Svan.....

[scottmandue]

Originally posted by svandamme
trust me Livi , i have to rack my brain constantly as well
especially with them americans on this board, keep in mind , that "debate class" is actually something that is tought in the US schools... never seen it in Europe... then there is the english class , many of em learned shakespear and other famous writers in school ... i just learned it from watching hte A-team and Happy Days with Fonzie...

Shakespeare? Wasn't he that poofter that ran around in tights spouting king James english? never heard of the guy!

[svandamme]

Originally posted by cool_chick
FTR, I have not found a faith that explains differently. They all say it's a personal thing to strive for. I've only seen various men's interpretation of it to mean something else.

Hope that answers your question as well Svan.....

no it doesn't

Originally posted by cool_chick
Religion is supposed to be about one personally living a righteous life....not making others do or don't do something you think they should do. In fact, if something's forced, not done willingly, that is bad in the eyes of God.

my question of "what god" basically made the point that in your post
you tried the make a point for everyone... an assumption that all religion... is governed by what is , or what is not bad in the eyes of God...but in doing so , you impose your view , that there is one God...
which is not the view for Atheists, Buddhist, Hindu , or any other faith that does not conform to your one God view...

so your definiation of what religion is supposed to be
is not accurate and not even fair to others

[scottmandue]

Originally posted by svandamme
no it doesn't




my question of "what god" basically made the point that in your post
you tried the make a point for everyone... an assumption that all religion... is governed by what is , or what is not bad in the eyes of God...but in doing so , you impose your view , that there is one God...
which is not the view for Atheists, Buddhist, Hindu , or any other faith that does not conform to your one God view...

so your definiation of what religion is supposed to be
is not accurate and not even fair to others

You mis-spelled definition

[svandamme]

Originally posted by scottmandue
You mis-spelled definition

i'm not the one that started a spelling thread

[nostatic]

Originally posted by stuartj
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Indeed.

There is after all, only one Donald Fagan, and he is merely mortal. One assumes.

so Becker is Jesus?

[livi]

Originally posted by Jim Cesiro
You mean a bull in a China shop there Swedish boy.


Your english is 100x better than my Swedish so you win.

You see what I mean ?!!!

But thanks for the 'Cher up, lad' (or what ever itīs called)...

Stijn, I picked up my English on McGyver, Colombo and Dallas. Kind of gayish, come to think of it..

[scottmandue]

Originally posted by svandamme
i'm not the one that started a spelling thread

Stop avoiding the question...

DO YOU LIKE GLADIATOR MOVIES?

[Porsche-O-Phile]

[snowman]

The final conclusion, aids is gods answer to gays.

[stuartj]

All those children around the world dying of Aids. What a nice god yours is.

Or perhaps god didnt intend for that happen? He's only human, adfter all.

Mathew 18:14- Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

[nostatic]

Originally posted by snowman
The final conclusion, aids is gods answer to gays.

[svandamme]

Originally posted by snowman
The final conclusion, aids is gods answer to gays.

and what will you say if the big flue hits, and it's about to do you in?

"super flue, gods answer to intolerant people?"

EDIT,

actually snowman , i think if you look for absolute numbers
you'll find that more straight people die from aids, then gay

Africa, anyone?

and it always strikes me as odd, that those who are the most "anti" , like anti abortion , screaming "every life is sacred"
also use the tag line "god will snuff you if you don't do this or that" the same god that according to them says "every life is sacred"

dual standards, no?

I'm not saying that you said that explicitly snowman, but such hypocrites are out there

[svandamme]

Originally posted by scottmandue
Stop avoiding the question...

DO YOU LIKE GLADIATOR MOVIES?

not particulary more then other movies

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by snowman
The final conclusion, aids is gods answer to gays.

AIDS is population control and nothing else....

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by svandamme
no it doesn't




my question of "what god" basically made the point that in your post
you tried the make a point for everyone... an assumption that all religion... is governed by what is , or what is not bad in the eyes of God...but in doing so , you impose your view , that there is one God...
which is not the view for Atheists, Buddhist, Hindu , or any other faith that does not conform to your one God view...

so your definiation of what religion is supposed to be
is not accurate and not even fair to others

The God of any one who's religious. Hindu, Buddhist, God.....

They are all taught it's something personal, not forced. No God of any form teaches to force things.

Trying to force against one's will is against the teachings.


Athiests, no, this doesn't apply to them, they're teachings are not derived from this particular core, God (or Buddha, etc. etc.). Though I would hope they're taught not to force things on others from their mothers...





Best saying ever:

"Mother is the name of God on the lips and hearts of all children."




My point is, for those who believe in God or Buddha, etc., none of these teachings dictate forcing.

How is this inaccurate or unfair?

[svandamme]

Buddhist don't have "a god" either. Buddha is not a "god"
folks don't "belief in Buddha" they "develop their own Buddha Nature", they belief in the teachings of Buddha, but that's not believing in "a god"

tribal deities , i don't know em all to well, and i suspect you don't either CC... do you know for fact that none of these former headhunter tribes, have a religious belief that says "eat your neigbour unless he converts"?

my point is , that your point is not applicable to all
because it goes from the presumption that you know all religions
and and presumed that all religions in basic form , in the core , teach non agressive recruting...

common, just admit that you "generalized" things a tad to much

[notfarnow]

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by svandamme
[B]Buddhist don't have "a god" either. Buddha is not a "god"
folks don't "belief in Buddha" they "develop their own Buddha Nature", they belief in the teachings of Buddha, but that's not believing in "a god"

I'm using the term God blanketly to describe my point. I'm not going to use every single native name for their higher power belief to make my point...sorry. You want to get anal and use this analness to twist what I"m saying, go for it...but it's a twist nonetheless.

Show me where Buddists are taught to FORCE.

tribal deities , i don't know em all to well, and i suspect you don't either CC... do you know for fact that none of these former headhunter tribes, have a religious belief that says "eat your neigbour unless he converts"?

You're right, I don't know every single 50 person religion out there.....hence my statement, I have not found a faith that teaches differently.....

I never once claimed I knew every single faith. I stated I have not found a faith that teaches differently....so quit twisting my words already!

my point is , that your point is not applicable to all
because it goes from the presumption that you know all religions
and and presumed that all religions in basic form , in the core , teach non agressive recruting...

Ok, you're right. Of course they all teach to force *****. What was I thinking? shrugs.

common, just admit that you "generalized" things a tad to much

No I didn't. I admit based on your twisting of what I said though...

[Jims5543]

Originally posted by snowman
The final conclusion, aids is gods answer to gays.

Brilliant!!


I rest my case.

Jesus loves you.