Apple Phone.

[VINMAN]

Originally posted by dmoolenaar
I think the iPhone is beautiful. Like Todd mentioned the US is a 3rd world mobile phone country and I personally am still on the prarie with 1/2 pint and Michael Landon...I hate folks/phones with the stupid ringers. Ring Ring is fine no? Yes I am getting old and crotchy...

Ditto!

[techweenie]

Originally posted by HardDrive
Me. I will deny it. I f*cking detest the mac gui interfaces. Especially on their OS. Its an OS designed for children.

LOL.

We heard this from 1983 (Lisa) on. Oh, mouses are dumb. they slow you down. Who needs WYSIWYG? I love my WordStar key combinations! A trash can on a "desktop?" It's a toy! Visual interfaces? I learned to type in alphanumeric pathnames and basic DOS functions, and anyone who doesn't shouldn't be using a computer!

There's always a "Luddite drag" on new technology, it seems. At least that's the way it's been since the beginning of the industry. At the first West Coast Computer Faire, I heard guys saying that manual boostrapping was the only 'manly' way to operate a computer. Plus ça change...

[VINMAN]

Originally posted by dmoolenaar
A real eye-opener for me was riding trains in Japan and everyone was busy IM'ing and playing games on their phones. Literally 80%+ were focused on their phones. Same thing at bus stops & airports. Reminds me of kids (not mine) that freak the minute the DVD player stops in the car...

I'm old fashioned and like to watch life pass by the windows...

Double ditto!! People are too dependent on these things.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally posted by SlowToady
I also detest the Mac GUIs. And the XP GUI. And the Vista GUI. I use XP on my laptop in classic view.

Whether or not UNIX is an OS for children is a moot point, since OSX isn't UNIX, IIRC. I don't recall Apple getting it UNIX certified by The Open Group, who holds the UNIX TM. Small, nitpicky point, but PPOT seems to thrive on those.

And SGI, DEC, SUN and others had/have, IMO, much nicer GUIs than either Apple or MSFT. Irix, anyone? CDE on SunOS/Solaris?

OK it's a .nix

Full scope.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/

[}{arlequin]

i loved the razr but hated the os or whatever it is. compared to a nokia it was like a pc vs. mac thing... i'm really crap at computers and so i struggle w/ my pc. want a mac but can't part w/ my thinkpad nipple. if they only stuck it into a mac....

speaking of phones, that's why even though it's wonderful to use, certain bang&olufsen phones suck. keyboard pattern is either circular (wtf???!!) or in a column of two vertical rows what are they thinking? plenty of numbers are dialed from a 'pattern' memory and it's screwing it up.

btw, mac people,
does it make sense to buy a refurb'd machine?

[techweenie]

For everyone still thinking "phone:"

---- from SiliconValley.com ----
One button. How we all laughed. A mouse? OK. A phone? They'll never be able to do it ...

Well, they did it. And as I write this, Apple shares are trading a bit north of $96. Which means the only folks laughing today are Apple CEO Steve Jobs and the company's shareholders, who are surely beaming with smug satisfaction over the reception given the iPhone Tuesday.

"This goes beyond smart phones and should be given its own category called 'brilliant' phones," said Tim Bajarin, principal analyst with Creative Strategies. Jupiter analyst Michael Gartenberg was even more effusive. "The iPhone is the most beautiful and functional phone I have ever seen," he wrote. " First time I held it, I was speechless for more than a few seconds."

Over at Bank of America Equity Research, Apple analyst Keith Bachman managed to duck the reality distortion field that held his colleagues long enough to consider the device's impact on Apple's bottom line. "We believe [the iPhone] is a major evolutionary step, given that it has effectively eliminated keyboard keys and plastic input keys and is using a touch interface with software as its strength," he wrote in a research note to clients. "Apple indicated that they expect to sell 10 million units in calendar year 2008. ... Given the nature of the device as well as the 'wow factor,' we believe that the number sounds low." And that may well be, especially if the iPhone proves to be everything that Apple and those few who've seen it claim -- an instantly transformative device.

"The iPhone breaks two basic axioms of consumer technology," wrote Time's Lev Grossman, who's had some hands-on time with Apple's latest creation. "One, when you take an application and put it on a phone, that application must be reduced to a crippled and annoying version of itself. Two, when you take two devices --such as an iPod and a phone -- and squish them into one, both devices must necessarily become lamer versions of themselves. The iPhone is a phone, an iPod, and a mini-Internet computer all at once, and contrary to Newton -- who knew a thing or two about apples -- they all occupy the same space at the same time, but without taking a hit in performance. In a way iPhone is the wrong name for it. It's a handheld computing platform that just happens to contain a phone."

[stevepaa]

Originally posted by }{arlequin
btw, mac people,
does it make sense to buy a refurb'd machine?

yes, same one year warranty, and if you visit a mac store now you might be able to get a good deal on someone's returned Christmaas present.

[wludavid]

Originally posted by stevepaa
yes, same one year warranty, and if you visit a mac store now you might be able to get a good deal on someone's returned Christmaas present.

+1 I just bought a refurbed machine last summer to replace my aging iBook. It looks new, feels new, you get a warranty (upgradable to 3 years from the date you bought it for the same price as you'd pay on a new one), and it was $300 less than it was when new and $300 less than a comparable new MacBook (replacement for iBook).

[cmccuist]

Until they work out all the bugs, I'm going to stick with the ol' reliable.

[red-beard]

Originally posted by }{arlequin
i loved the razr but hated the os or whatever it is. compared to a nokia it was like a pc vs. mac thing... i'm really crap at computers and so i struggle w/ my pc. want a mac but can't part w/ my thinkpad nipple.

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