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The last hundred years or so have seen technolgy moving forward at a very fast pace. Maybe too fast. Without thought of the consequences.

It seems world peace has been forgotten, the fact that *most* of the new technology had it's root for a miltary purpose.
Man is really good at killing. Very efficient. Quick. It's disgusting.

I'm trying to think of a recent breakthrough that has made life better for all man.


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Old 04-15-2007, 08:52 AM
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In the last century two major governments outlawed religion . A third government took a very dim view toward religion and operated under a doctrine of survival of the fittest.These governments were the most brutal the world has ever known!

Since WWII we have tried to make the world more interdependent and we in the US have abandoned isolationism but I'm not sure this is working .

World or local peace are going to be very hard to come by.I hate to say this but it seems that nuclear weapons deter countries that have them from going to war with each other and we know that crime has gone down in areas that liberalize gun ownership . But we always have that worry of a nut leader with a nuc or local nut with a gun .

Now I would be all for banning guns and nucs if we could keep them off the black market . But I've come full circle and conclude . No answer .
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if we all become JWs then there will be world peace.
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Everything, trekkor, is local in nature. Most folks are affected by things in a 5 mile radius from where they reside. That being said; problems arise from a number of factors, most of which have their roots in emotion. Envy, ego, greed and fear to name a few. Eliminate the negative emotional factors, concentrate on the positive and practical, and much of the problem would go away.

I am convinced that most of the citizenry of this little globe would be a lot happier if everyone learned to mind their own business, and help when asked. Too many people trying to convince others that one lifestyle,whether it be a political system or a religious belief is superior to another. As long as that individual lifestyle or culture does not harm its members or others, either physically or mentally, others should leave it alone. If that culture believes in torture, submission, slavery or worse and becomes a threat to itself or its neighbors, then intervention may be called for.

One final observation: As the world population continues to increase, the situation will continue to decline.
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if we all become JWs then there will be world peace.

Truer words couldn't be spoken, Todd.

I'm interested in the outlook held by the population.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no solutions in the foreseeable future. The governments have no answers and the people know that.


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there never has been "world peace". There never will be. Even if everyone converted to JW.

Straw argument to further an agenda.

The best you can hope for is as much peace as you can muster. Humans are human. They compete. They want to win. Individuals come to their own peace only after fighting their own internal battles (jihad anyone?). Beyond that you do the best you can.

Governments are corrupt. Religions are corrupt. Because they both involve people and money and power and control. Period.
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I have never understood the term, "Straw Man" or "Straw" arguement.
Help me out here...


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abolish religion. Peace will follow
communists fight wars too

it weren't the Tibetans that invaded China
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World peace is unachievable. It's against the nature of the human species.
Yep.

Whirled peas is much more achievable.
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I'd like to hear your outlook. It's important to me.
Are you working on a Miss America speech?
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You were the apple of the public's eye as you cut the ribbon at the local mall
A mirage for both you and us. How can this be real?
We love your body in that photograph, your home state sure must be proud
The queen of the United States, or have you lost your crown

Well aren't you Miss America
Don't you Miss America
Won't you Miss America
Our love

Well are you really who we think you are
Or does your smile seem to wear you down
Is the girl who you once were screaming to jump out
And the dream that you must live - a disease for which there is no cure
This roller coaster ride you're on won't stop to let you off

Well aren't you Miss America
Don't you Miss America
Won't you Miss America
Our love

Miss America, Miss America, Miss America
Miss America, Miss America, Miss America

Well aren't you Miss America
Don't you Miss America
Won't you Miss America
Our love

Well it's true just take a look - The cover sometimes makes the book
And the judges, do they ever ask to read between your lines
In your cage at the human zoo, they all stop to look at you
Next year, what will you do when you have been forgotten

Well aren't you Miss America
Don't you Miss America
Won't you Miss America
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Governments are corrupt. Religions are corrupt. Because they both involve people and money and power and control. Period.

So what's going to happen?

"Religion is a snare and a racket"...

Do you remember that?

Everyone wants peace and the Gov'ts say thats what they are are working to acheive. They will not.

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I'm trying to think of a recent breakthrough that has made life better for all man.


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Despite what you think/believe, stem cell research and implementation of that research will fortify man until the end of time. So that's the breakthrough.
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Despite what you think/believe, stem cell research and implementation of that research will fortify man until the end of time. So that's the breakthrough.
Until some new disease manifests itself. It's necessary to keep the balance.

Unlike for example, the lions/wildebeasts, in this case, the largest "predator" is routinely succumbed by the smallest "predator."
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You'd think after all these years the gov't would at least have a "game plan".

Stem cells, huh? Another "hope".
How about actual acomplishments.


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does your sewer system work? When you turn on the faucet, do you get drinkable water? Have you been killed recently?

Seems like there is a plan in there somewhere and on some level it is working...
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Is that your final answer?


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Assuming that the lack of money is the root of all evil...

Fist start with Education, then with Trade with that there will be Prosperity and Stability will follow. Peace will be elusive as long as there is discontent.

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