San Fran should just succeed from the USA!!!

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by stuartj

Whichever you feel up to. But I do not think it (that word) means what you think it means.

Why do America's Marines need commercials?

Dutiful and obedient to your way of thinking. I was being ironic. I assumed to much.

[idontknow]

Originally Posted by tabs

Frisicans all walk around like they got a stick up their a$$, or sumthin.

I think I picked up on a subtlety!

Originally Posted by vash

so basically, gay groups can fill out and turn in paperwork on time better than the marines?

I believe the focus of the bashing was that the city would be more willing to assist (insert gay focus group) if they were late or had trouble on any permits rather than simply reject them.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by k911sc

also, if you ever do make it up here to the bay you might ask around, my humor is sarcastic to the point it would fly right over your head. lastly, if you were to read the rules here they state "no personal attacks". when i am being called a prick by someone like you i don't know too well i consider it such. now tabs & island can call me gay, fudge-packen fig and i laugh it off. see i know them a bit from here, more so that august of 05 tobra-come-lately.

T$

You need to learn to read more carefully and should probably use one of these things if you don't want to come across like that.

[Shocker]

I was just in SF a couple of weeks ago. Is it just my imagination or is SF a really filthy city? Trash all over the place etc?

Also, I have never seen so many folks smokin' weed out in the open. I had seen at least 5 different groups of people either standing or walking around with blunts.

Why is that?

[island911]

Originally Posted by k911sc

....
also, if you ever do make it up here to the bay you might ask around, my humor is sarcastic to the point it would fly right over your head. lastly, if you were to read the rules here they state "no personal attacks". ... now tabs & island can call me gay, fudge-packen fig and i laugh it off. see i know them a bit from here, more so that august of 05 tobra-come-lately.

T$

True. Ya have to dial up the gain on the sarcasmeter when reading Toby's posts. Else you will miss it.

...Toby, you might want to work on that.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by stuartj

All very interesting, by why do America's Marines need a commercial?

Also, a silent drill squad? Isn't like SF is the perfect place to film a well choreographed, beautifully costumed all male troupe?

Why do gays need a pride month??? Why can't I have a pride month & parade for threesomes??

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by Normy

Dude- its' Fox news. Rupert Murdoch is interested in nothing other than advertising revenue. Long ago he realized that none of the networks pandered to the right wing. Guess what he's doing now-? Earning BILLIONS of dollars by submitting to the [unwitting] "you" individuals like Mr. Anne Coulter. Anne is a transgendered person, but that's not mentioned because Andy realizes that his stage name is worth probably $25 million dollars. That pays for a whole ****in' lot of transgender surgery! A talking head at a popular national news outlet like Fox can earn upwards of $5 million per year. With that kind of coin at stake, you can understand why a person would try to keep their private life A CERTAIN WAY. I applaud Anne's work, even though I don't agree with her message.

N

Dude, its a city where the mayor went againt the law to lets gays marry, the same city who said that the military can't be on the school grounds.. just because you like to suck peter doesn't mean the rest of us want to know about it. BTW, have you ever seen Anne Coulter, not that it would matter. If a bunch of ******s wanted to march, SF would let them, no proplems, but there is a history of HATE in SF for anything normal.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by vash

so basically, gay groups can fill out and turn in paperwork on time better than the marines?

this thread is funny.

You, you guys just blow the right people, your mayor alreasdy showed that the law doesn't matter as long as it means promoting the gay agenda!!

[stevepaa]

So I guess you won't be moving here too soon.

But seriously, since the issue was not as portrayed, it seems the gay issue is at the root of your anger. Since you are in Florida, why do you care what we do here.

[nostatic]

almost all the native and 3rd generation Californians I know (all 5 of us) are quite cool. Interesting that people say the place has gone downhill since the 70's, so that would be due to all the people moving in from other states perhaps?

Very simple solution guys. Don't go to San Francisco. Or CA for that matter.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by nostatic

almost all the native and 3rd generation Californians I know (all 5 of us) are quite cool. Interesting that people say the place has gone downhill since the 70's, so that would be due to all the people moving in from other states perhaps?

Very simple solution guys. Don't go to San Francisco. Or CA for that matter.

Yup, welcome to California, now go home, there are already too many people here. Maybe the overcrowding has gotten people tense.

I noticed SF got a lot dirtier in the last 10-20 years. I don't go there anymore. It is all the homeless people and panhandlers, who generally have some sort of mental health disease. This was started, or greatly exacerbated when Ronald Reagan was the guv and kicked them all to the curb, all the non dangerous ones were put on the street, so to speak.

Originally Posted by island911

True. Ya have to dial up the gain on the sarcasmeter when reading Toby's posts. Else you will miss it.

...Toby, you might want to work on that.

See, I knew I would not have to point out how his response epitomized my point

[audi2.7t]

Shame there's no oil in San Francisco...that would make it worth invading..!!. Once the wells were depleted, we could put a big fence around it and stick all the illegals there.. Hell, we could just give it to Mexico!!.

*my best attempt at being a "backwards hick" from New Jersey.

[Danimal16]

This is a topic that has bugged me for a long time. There are a ton of gays, jews, christians, moslems, whites, blacks, browns, asians, etc. etc. etc. in the military. But here is the deal, why should anyone have the right to get up and express their preference for anything and what the heck is their motivation? Well I offer that it is for selfish reasons and not for the good of the unit or the success of the mission. I have seen a ton of folks pull together when the chips are down, it is amazing! These same folks may not be best friends during the regular day but they respect each other.

I know I am going to take heck for the following from my Christian brothers and sisters but if an evangelical sailor were to stand up in the barracks bay and start preaching as compared to anyone else doing the same thing, well I would not condone it and put an end to it immediatly. That does not preclude sailors from communicating one on one or in small groups, no matter what the topic (well mutiny would not be good) but that is their right, they have a choice. I may not like their choice or it may not be my cup of tea, but it is their choice, period.

Itimate relationships are private matters. Don't ask don't tell confirms that, once it is forced into the public, on others, it is another matter.

Anyway, that is my 2 cents. Service with honor is something all humans do all the time.

DanB

Originally Posted by tabs

Now if we let Gays in the military...then Frisicans would say,"ouuuu how Progressive" and that permit would have been issued in an instant.

[Normy]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Dude, its a city where the mayor went againt the law to lets gays marry, the same city who said that the military can't be on the school grounds.. just because you like to suck peter doesn't mean the rest of us want to know about it. BTW, have you ever seen Anne Coulter, not that it would matter. If a bunch of ******s wanted to march, SF would let them, no proplems, but there is a history of HATE in SF for anything normal.

Nice.

What does "suck peter" mean? I'm going to try to get you banned, sir, sorry. You are obviously a homophobe, and probably not even worthy of a posiion here. I might recommend an '86 camaro instead.

Enjoy your asthmatic 305-

N!

[varmint]

here's a link to a series of photos taken at last weeks folsom street fair. on the street, broad daylight, look at them and tell me how proud you are of the tolerant laid back atmosphere in san francisco.

NOT WORK SAFE...

REALLY, SERIOUSLY, NOT WORK SAFE.



http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/

[Mule]

Originally Posted by Normy

Nice.

What does "suck peter" mean? I'm going to try to get you banned, sir, sorry. You are obviously a homophobe, and probably not even worthy of a posiion here. I might recommend an '86 camaro instead.

Enjoy your asthmatic 305-

N!

Come on Normy. That post wasn't nearly as creepy as the one where you told about one of your experiences on the dark side on the other board. By the way, can you define a HOMOPHOBE?

SF should just elect Michael Savage Mayor. He's straighten it up.

[Mo_Gearhead]

RE: "the folsom street fair"
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Can anyone name another city in the USA where this type of behavior would be allowed to take place, in public, without arrests?

The only hope for that pathetic city is this: The terrorists (when they do get a small nuke device to our shores) will understand 'prevaling winds' relationship to fallout ....so rather than set it off in N.Y. they will (correctly) choose the West Coast.

Hey towel head ...NOT L.A. .... go further North please.

[rcm]

Originally Posted by Danimal16

I am from California and currently stationed in Virginia. Many of us who have served and those who support us and any other American that has traveled this great land understands that the diversity of our great land is what sets us apart as strong and unique.

I was raised in Southern California and have seen the state decay for every year of my adult life, especially since the mid seventies. I am a transplant from Wisconsin, my dad was a Marine transferred to El Toro and we stayed. What is so interesting is the influx of folks from all over that have come to California and how in at least the past two decades the attitude of those imigrants have changed and have changed the California Government and Culture.

I remember in my early years of college how diverse and accepting it seemed to be when meeting folks from outside the state who had relocated to California. It seemed to me to be a very accepting society and people were welcomed. There was the rule of law, or at least it seemed as such. Orange County was strong middle of the road conservative.

What seems to have happened is that the California that I knew and the California that the old timers knew and created has been subplannted with an arrogant class of folks that have degraded California to such a point that the term "Golden State" is more about the attitude of greed and arogance that hope and a chance to make it. What is really troubling, at least to me is the idiots are not observant enough or so arrogant that the don't even notice the decay.

Many of the folks who I grew up with have left the state, and many have relocated to what some Frisco folks would deride as something beneath the "standard???". So, take their arrogance for a grain of salt and let them figure it out what has caused a once great state to so degrade. As for me, I just don't know if I want to be around there anymore to try and help fix it. Virginia, Texas, Arizona, the Carolinas and so many other places offer the hope and stability that California is so lacking.

Well said.

El Toro the coolest Marine Air Base, I used to love watching the helos go out of there. Those blimp hangers were awesome.

Listen, thanks to you and your dad for serving.

Rick

[tmsautoart]

This post makes me so damn angry on so many levels. I get sad when I think about all of our Veterans that must think "this is what I fought for? This is what so many people have died for?" We have the rights in this country to be whatever and act however we want. Try being openly gay in 1939 Nazi Germany. Try being an artist or whatever you want to be in the Soviet Union in 1984. Geez...aren't you glad THEY didn't win? What kills me is the reason people have these freedoms is because of our military and what they have done for us. Those same free people will spit in the face of a soldier. I'm glad my WWII vet Granfathers are not around to see this.I always felt bad for my Dad being a Vietnam Vet. I always hated thinking of him and what it must have been like coming home to such a "warm" reception like he did. I'm so proud of him and his military service (20+ years active duty and 20+ yrs and going civi gov. employee at Mayport NS) and always go out of my way to let him know that.
I don't get the whole "Gay pride" thing. I mean...really? I know some gay people (Guys and Gals...hell, I went to art school) And they always felt like "what's the big deal if your gay?" They never made it an "issue" They didn't let it define them as a person. Nobody ever says "Terry...you know...the hetero guy that has the thing for girls) You wouldn't even know some of them were gay and they didn't feel the need to flaunt it....why should it be an issue. Is it an issue that I like big boobs? Should I have "Big Tit Appreciation Day" and close down the streets of Jacksonville? (not a bad idea...Byron, you in?)
One of the best feelings I recently had was sitting in Bradley Airport (Hartford CT) on my way back to FL. and seeing a family waiting for their son to get back from Iraq. The place was packed, but fairly quiet. When those Soldiers got off the plane, the whole place erupted in applause for at least 5 minutes while families hugged, kissed and cried. Not hardly a dry eye around. You could hear the applause following them down the concourse. And this was in liberal CT!!!! Not all is lost. I guess we (the US) need more Dems like Lieberman.
Also...this is a great way for me to really get to know some of you and see a little more of your true personallities. It's great when we all talk Porsche but very disappointing, but informative, when we don't. I wish I could stop looking over here and just keep Pelican about cars. When I read posts now in the 911 sections I find myself saying" wait...this is the jerk from the OT thread".

BTW. I'm sure I have spelling errors but i'm too f**king stupid to use the spell check button. I'm angry and I did go to a government school in the south for most of my childhood. Grew up in the hood of Ponte Vedra FL. lots of really dumb redneck golfers and tennis pros out there. Oh and I forgot the really redneck late Peter Gregg and Hurley Haywood. What a hick town.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by tmsautoart

. Is it an issue that I like big boobs? Should I have "Big Tit Appreciation Day" and close down the streets of Jacksonville? (not a bad idea...Byron, you in?)
BTW. I'm sure I have spelling errors but i'm too f**king stupid to use the spell check button. I'm angry and I did go to a government school in the south for most of my childhood. Grew up in the hood of Ponte Vedra FL. lots of really dumb redneck golfers and tennis pros out there. Oh and I forgot the really redneck late Peter Gregg and Hurley Haywood. What a hick town.

Yep Terry, I have been saing that for a long time

"Big Tit Appreciation Day"

By the way, you do know that Hurley Haywood plays for the other team

Can anyone name another city in the USA where this type of behavior would be allowed to take place, in public, without arrests?

Key West, maybe that is why a newbie, like Normy wants to get me banned for pointing out the truth, he even has the German version of the car he tells me to buy(sorry, one is going to talk me into getting rid of my Porsche's, street or vintage to make some poser happy, My mother raced a Porsche back in the 50, and I spend a fair amount of time on the track myself) so why don't you just stay on the gay-blade boards. BTW, I use to have a 86 928, but in a mans color with a 5 speed and no sunroof