Stijn!!

[Porsche-poor]

Lots I'm sure.

[flipper35]

Our whole family is readers. Our daughter was always disappointed because they would not let her check out books above her "level" until she refused to read any more of the "stupid, boring books". She finally got special permission to check out any book in the 1-8 grade library. By 4th or 5th she was reading the Ann of Green Gables series and Timothy Zahn.

Our daughter likes the sci-fi/fantasy and our son likes documentaries. I like the pretty much sci-fi and books from Mark Berent and Tom Clancy and pretty much anything aviation related.

I get home last night to a dead racoon in the yard. The night before it got into a fight with our lab but my wife called the lab (the beagle left this one alone, they were equal size) off and the coon ran up the tree. Evidently it died up there. This is the lab that runs from everything under the sun, including ground squirrels. Must not like raccoons. This is the 4th one she treed since summer but the first that died. OK, one was not treed, it went up the play set. I wish the prices were up on hides so they would get thinned out again.

[Porsche-poor]

Have you had a talk with the dog yet? Labs are bird dogs.

[flipper35]

She is a "unique" dog. Blind in one eye and when we picked her up were told the dogs name was Jackie. I was like "really, one eyed..." and they said "oh crap, we didn't even think about that".

Anyway, if they made a dog movie of dumb and dumber the lab and bagel would be ideal cast.

Actually, she is smart yet dumb. Like the dumb jock in high school that couldn't do geometry but great at physics.

The bagel is just stubborn. He has a bark collar. Knows he has a bar collar. KNows it hurts when he barks a lot. He barks/yelps a lot.

[flipper35]

Our first lab dispatched any non canine animal from the yard with extreme prejudice. She would accept people if we told her they were OK. Unless it was a baby. She loved babies. She would stand on her hind legs and walk next to a mother holding a newborn. Oh, and make sure you treat that baby right or you would get the stink eye from her.

[GH85Carrera]

Every single Hollywood movie seems to HAVE to have a love interest. Even movies like Terminator, have to throw a romance into it.

Try to name a movie that does not have a love interest. I am excluding some pure children's movies since I have not seen many of those in a long time.

And very few if any movies are true to the facts. The writers always want to spice it up and alter the entire movie plot often. Apollo 13 is one of the few that follows the facts. Even that movie Ron Howard admitted the astronauts in reality never had raised voices and any sort of argument like in the movie. If you listen to the transcripts they are just having a clam discussion on the options. There is simply no place for emotions and arguing when in a life and death situation.

[Porsche-poor]

Labs are great dogs. We have had two. A chocolate and a yellow. Both dumb as sticks when it came to people outside. The Choc (Sammy) once barked at the paperboy. He was on the other side of the street leaving the neighborhood and has already dropped the paper off on our porch.

[slodave]

I didn't know bagels barked.

[Porsche-poor]

its the lox and cream cheese!

[flipper35]

Our youngest used to call him a bagel instead of beagle. Bagels make me bark, but out the wrong end. Scares the beagle though.

Our first lab would not let any male on the property if she did not know them and I was not home.

How are ya Dave? Flying much lately? A friend of mine just soloed after 18 hours under his belt. All I have done is with the Hobbyzone Corsair, and not even much of that.

[GH85Carrera]

There are some goofy people out there.

I got a call from a out of state company looking for any possible aerials of an area close to downtown Tulsa, in a very industrial area and they wanted anything between 1965 and 1989. She said she had scoured the country looking for historical aerials of that area and found very few. I looked through our archives and found over a dozen different years in her date range and I got them the list. Then they wanted to know if they were on our web site. I said of course not. Each image is over 300 MB and we have at least a million negatives if not even more than that. We would need petabyte size RAID to store all of that and a few decades to scan it all.

Then he of course wanted to know how to get the images. I told him, pick the years you want and I will scan them and write up an invoice. She sounded shocked that we charge for images. I told her we have been in business since 1947 as a business. We are not now and never have been a library. We sell pictures and mapping services for a living. We don't do much of anything for free. She will get back to us.

[Porsche-poor]

I'm betting not.

[RKDinOKC]

Was getting artwork for various projects in the mid 90's. There was a huge amount of historical images (photos and scanned paintings) available in several resolutions free from the Library of Congress. If it was not already scanned you sent them a formal request and they would scan it for you for a small fee, but it would take a couple of weeks. It was all available free for use as long as you filed a document stating what publication etc you were using the images for.

Fast forward about 10 years. Only some of the historical images from the Library of Congress are available thru Getty Images. Usage cost the same as any other images Getty provides. There is no more on-line listing of all images in the library of congress you could search and you cannot request images from the Library of Congress any longer. Some of the images that I know were already scanned and had used in the past are not available any longer.

[GH85Carrera]

Yea, the Library of Congress is an institution we all want to think has top processionals and archivists taking great care of the possessions of the people. Unfortunately they have typical civil service attitude people that do the minimum work possible.

Since the 1930s when the feds starting paying farmers to NOT grow crops, there has been some cheating. A farmer takes the money and grows crops anyway. The feds have had the USDA flying the country county by county state to state. Oklahoma was flown in the 1930s on 9x9 aerial film. The geniuses in the government decided that 1930s imagery should be shipped to the Library of Congress. Instead of storing it properly the morons made duplicate negative on 5x5 film, and they did did not even have the camera in focus. Then they destroyed the original negatives.

We can order them but is is stupid complex. We can't call them or email them. Only a FAX. They might or might not reply so we keep sending a fax about once a week until one of the employees decides to look at it. They will tell us they do or don't have a particular image and what the file number is. To get a copy of the image we have to hire an independent authorized archivist to go into the archives and scan the negative on premises. He has a standard non photogrammetric consumer level scanner. It cost a lot for him to make the scan. It might take 6 months to get a final image from them.

I have had to do that only twice now. One customer wanted any aerial from the 1700s to date. I asked he if she knew when the airplane was invented.

[flipper35]

Well duh, the pilgrims came over flying coach.

[RKDinOKC]

Thought Columbus discovered America in cars...The Nova, Pinto, and played Super Mario.

The Pilgrams used the Mayflower moving company didn't they?
And drove around in Plymouths while the local Indians liked Pontiacs?

[GH85Carrera]

There are some aerial shot from a balloon in 1858. Photography was invented in 1826 and it was certainly not something that could be used in an aircraft. That did not really happen until WWI as a practical aerial photo. We have some images from the late 1940s that were shot by the former owner here. That is as far back as our images go.

[RKDinOKC]

Weren't all the pictures back then taken with Polaroid Land Cameras?

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by flipper35

Our youngest used to call him a bagel instead of beagle. Bagels make me bark, but out the wrong end. Scares the beagle though.

Our first lab would not let any male on the property if she did not know them and I was not home.

How are ya Dave? Flying much lately? A friend of mine just soloed after 18 hours under his belt. All I have done is with the Hobbyzone Corsair, and not even much of that.

[Jim Richards]

Hot dog!