Thinking of purchasing a .22 pistol

[emcon5]

I don't disagree, but I personally find it more constructive to get a new shooter to slow down on their own, rather than saddling them with the state-of-the-1873-art loading process.

If they can't slow down and focus, then you start loading the magazine with one round at a time.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by targa911S

$400-$500

I will give yo $400 for that right now...and all that you can get your hands on...

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Soukus

Dangit! You guys really suck. It's really because of this board that I got the gunbug.

Beat Heroin..at least at the end of the day you have something to show for your high.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I bought one of these for myself on my 21st birthday, just because I could. Walked right into a Fred Meyer store, plunked my money down, and walked out with it and a brick of ammo on the same day. 28 years later, it's still going strong.

I go through at least four or five bricks a year in this gun alone, so it has now digested several tens of thousands of rounds in those past 28 years without a single malfunction of any kind. I still put at least a couple, maybe three boxes through it every week at the range. I've lost track of the grouse it has potted while out deer, elk, of bear hunting over the years. It has taught both of my sons, and my wife, to shoot handguns. When I'm "on", empty shotgun shells are in serious trouble out to 30-35 yards or so, offhand. It's as accurate as I can hold.

I can't think of a better, more useful, more fun .22 revolver or pistol. Especially as a first gun.

Why does one think I like front end loaders...

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by tabs

Why does one think I like front end loaders...

Yup. I didn't really learn to shoot the rifle until I got serious about muzzle loading. It did wonders for my hunting as well.

Originally Posted by emcon5

I don't disagree, but I personally find it more constructive to get a new shooter to slow down on their own, rather than saddling them with the state-of-the-1873-art loading process.

If they can't slow down and focus, then you start loading the magazine with one round at a time.

This should actually work, at least in theory. Unfortunately, I don't think I have ever seen this approach work. Human nature being what it is, the temptation to let 'er rip "just once" overcomes just about everybody. One lazy rapid-fire string at the end of a careful practice session can undo much of that session for a new shooter.

Yes, this has to be fun to keep the interest up, but handgunning is a particularly demanding shooting discipline. And the one, in my experience, where folks are the most prone to get lazy about it. Mostly because it is so difficult.

Maybe we need to define "good shooting". I look at it from a hunter's perspective. I expect to be able to take deer-sized game cleanly out to about 80-100 yards with an open sighted, 4 3/4" revolver, from an improvised field rest. Others are happy to get most shots into a man-sized silhouette target at the "standard combat range" of seven yards. Or they are pleased to keep most shots in the black, from a rest, at 25 yards.

To me, neither of the latter examples represent "good shooting". But, if they are having fun, and it's good enough for them, who am I to say?

[Stuart993]

What about this one?

...............and thanks again for all the input.




http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/images/browning/051428.jpg

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Top: A Colt Officers Model Match in 22LR...action is smooth as glass, great weight and balance..Mid 60's mfg.

Middle: An Colt Official Police in 22LR converted to a Colt King Super Target..addition of the rib wt sights, smoothed out action and Pachymeyer rubber grips. Early post war OP and conversion. This is the predecessor of the Python and Diamondback. Tough one to find. Notice the picture of the mirrored front sight

Bottom: Original prewar S&W K22, has Triggeer Shoe and late style prewar grips. Notice the quality of the blue job. The fit and finish on these can not be beat.

[Tim Hancock]

I have a 6" barreled Colt Peacemaker that comes with a .22 mag cylinder also that I would like to get rid of if anyone is interested. It is in very nice shape, but I hate shooting revolvers. It came with my wife along with a .44 magnum Ruger Blackhawk (which is not for sale as it is my wife's favorite gun). I have a Ruger Mark II .22 which I like to shoot and I am going to purchase an AA .22 conversion for my new Glock 34 to practice shooting cheap .22 with this winter.

Make me on offer on the Colt if anyone is interested. It does not have it's original box, but looks like it has not seen much use.

[Seahawk]

PM sent...hope I'm the first

[porsche4life]

Wow 23 minutes for a sale. I am kinda disappointed actually. I didn't think it would last that long really.

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

PM sent...hope I'm the first

LOL. I hope you got it Paul.

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by Stuart993

What about this one?

...............and thanks again for all the input.




http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/images/browning/051428.jpg

I like that if the price is right.

[porsche4life]

That browning is perfect if it is in your price range. Super accurate, reliable, great feel, and good looks.

[targa911S]

add to that "holds value"

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by tabs

I will give yo $400 for that right now...and all that you can get your hands on...

OK I admit I was WAY off on that. Forgot that "1" in front of that 4. My bad.

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

PM sent...hope I'm the first

I saw it but I have no money...

[tabs]

Originally Posted by targa911S

OK I admit I was WAY off on that. Forgot that "1" in front of that 4. My bad.

Last year I sold a NIB 1946 Match Target for $1500.....with no problem...

[tabs]

It is called a Frontier Scout...typically they go for $400 to $600 or so...

They really don't have the same cachet as the SAA..

[tabs]

Colt Frontier Scot or Ruger Single Six? ....give me the Colt...

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I hear complaints about how difficult it is to load and shoot the old single actions all the time. What I have found, however, is that they force one to slow down and actually learn to shoot. Anyone can feed ammo through a gun and make it go "bang". Not many can really shoot, especially with the handgun.

It still amazes me how many folks I see at the range, or in the gravel pit, who have shot for years (or all of their lives) who still cannot shoot. Yeah, they can stuff magazine after magazine into their pistols (or black rifles) and create mounds of empty brass, but they still can't shoot. What they lack in accuracy, they try to make up for in sheer volume.

Maybe if they slowed down a bit, they would actually learn something. A single action is great for that - you have a lot more effort invested in those six shots, so you want to make them count. Your grip will shift when cocking it (or under recoil in the bigger calibers), so you have to pay attention to it. You have to load and unload one round at a time, so you become loathe to waste one. Most single action men that I know are far better shots than your average handgunner, and most will tell you it is because they learned on, and mastered, the single action.

Plus ten trillion.

I agree 100% Jeff, absolutely.

Originally Posted by RPKESQ

It doesn't matter what kind of handgun shooting you want to do. The above practice will improve every genre of handgun use. Including the fast work. To be truly fast, you need to be smooth first.

I have also taught many soldiers and civvies to shoot. You and Jeff are 100% correct.

"Real sharpness comes without effort."
~Li Mu Bai, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.