California Is Great !

[varmint]

read the ferrari parking thread.

if it's that way for the rich, imagine how insufferable it must be for everyone else.

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

It's best days are behind it.

It makes me sad to agree with this. I grew up here in the 60's and 70's. It is hard to accept that it was that much fun. I am seriously thinking of moving. The memories of what it was and what it will become (it will get worse) are somewhat grinding on the spirit. But rest assured, where ever I go I will assimilate to that state or county or city. The only thing I will bring are the lessons learned from watching my home state kill itself, in other words "don't do this".

[tabs]

There are still alot of nice places to live in CA, that are far away from the grind of LA or even the Bay area...

There is the Central and Northern Coasts..there are the Sierra NV and Trinity Countys....but one still can not escape from the Progressive nature of the regime in Sacramento.

[aways]

Grew up in LA. Liked it then, but now really don't like it much. San Diego has most of the advantages of LA (weather), but few of its problems (endless flat terrain and lots of traffic). Climate-wise SD has got to be one of the best places on Earth to live.

OH, just one more problem with CA generally that must be acknowledged... The state is a basket-case economically. I won't go into why... wrong forum

[R K T]

Originally Posted by tabs

There are still alot of nice places to live in CA, that are far away from the grind of LA or even the Bay area...

There is the Central and Northern Coasts..there are the Sierra NV and Trinity Countys....but one still can not escape from the Progressive nature of the regime in Sacramento.

Oh soooo true!
I went to college in Eureka (very northern Ca). It's truly a different world up there. There's been much discussion that California should divide into two states, Northern Ca and Southern Ca. I guess a big enough earthquake would take care of that! Maybe East Ca and West Ca?

[syncroid]

I have been in California since 1970. I have always loved this state and would be hard pressed to move away from it. Call me optimistic but I am hoping that we can pull out of this tail spin before its too late.

[Jim Bremner]

The state needs to file BK.

Split into two, maybe three states. It's pretty messed up. We have more people on Goverment welfare than some states have people. Yet we have more illegal imegrants mowing lawns, building houses, washing cars, cooking, cleaning etc.

Things aren't right.

[daepp]

Best days are behind it - what a bunch of marroons.

Southern California is a great place to live - they havn't figured out how to ruin the weather!

The politics and Sacramento suck - it needs to fail completely. But survive - California will without a doubt. Let's talk during the next business cycle.

[JavaBrewer]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Agree with you, not enough money in the world to get me to return to Kalifornia...

Lot's of kooks in Kali

[Joeaksa]

Fruits and nuts, lots worse than anything in that video. Then there are the socialists.

You guys out there can have them. We have nice weather back here, and the beaches in Mexico are a few hours drive away.

[Dottore]

Originally Posted by tabs

There are still alot of nice places to live in CA, that are far away from the grind of LA or even the Bay area...

I agree. Just spent some time in Carmel and the Carmel valley. Gorgeous country! We also love Santa Barbara, and a little bit inland, the hills around Ojai.

As for California being better in the sixties—no doubt. But you can travel back there any time. Just check into one of the retro-hotels in Palm Springs for a week with a case of gin and a few jars of olives and watch Rat-Pack films on the in-house video. Great place to pick up a serious sixties vibe IMO.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Love to visit LA, could never live there. I go there for work every few mos. and I honestly think I've never run into a mean person there. I have spent enough time in NYC to never need to go back there as long as I live.

Cruise into the hoods sometimes. LOL

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by R K T

The weather is what brought people to California back in the 30s and 40s. That hasn't changed. I loved living in SoCal when I was a teenager/20s, but I had nothing to compare it to. In my 30s and 40s, I made a lot of money that I may or may not have made if I were living somewhere else. Driving from San Pedro to Beverly Hills (23 miles) took around 1 1/2 hours each way, but I did it for the $.
Now that California is 20 billion+ in debt they have raised every tax imaginable. Car registration has tripled. Fines for any kind of moving violation are astronomical. They just passed a new Estate tax going in effect Jan 2011.....50%!!!! So my wifes parents that have worked and saved all their lives will have half of their assests taken by the state when they pass, so the state can hand out more welfare and food stamps.
Gas prices, utilty costs, higher insurance, on and on. Is it worth the weather? Maybe for some, not me.

+100000, and see my signature line below.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by syncroid

I have been in California since 1970. I have always loved this state and would be hard pressed to move away from it. Call me optimistic but I am hoping that we can pull out of this tail spin before its too late.

The more appropriate term would be delusional.

Originally Posted by DAEpperson

Best days are behind it - what a bunch of marroons.

Southern California is a great place to live - they havn't figured out how to ruin the weather!

The politics and Sacramento suck - it needs to fail completely. But survive - California will without a doubt. Let's talk during the next business cycle.

Let's talk after the next mega quake destroys everything you own. (again).

[varmint]

Originally Posted by Dottore

I agree. Just spent some time in Carmel and the Carmel valley. Gorgeous country! We also love Santa Barbara, and a little bit inland, the hills around Ojai.

As for California being better in the sixties—no doubt. But you can travel back there any time. Just check into one of the retro-hotels in Palm Springs for a week with a case of gin and a few jars of olives and watch Rat-Pack films on the in-house video. Great place to pick up a serious sixties vibe IMO.

if you're willing to spend that kind of money for a weekend, then addis ababa is a nice place too. there are beautiful neighborhoods with italian futurist architecture and a classic bar scene at night. food is decent and the women stunning.

but you do not want to live there.

living day to day, doing any kind of business in california is just a grind.

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Cruise into the hoods sometimes. LOL

You can take point. I usually do better on high places several hundred yards away with someone spotting for me...

[R K T]

We went to the Monterey Historics last August and came back down the coast to visit friends. Thought I would check out the neighborhood I grew up in, LA harbor area. Hadn't been back in years.......It was down-right SCARY. No way did I belong on the street I lived on. I got looks from homies that I knew I did not belong there.
There is an area just next to Long Beach known as the "third world". We have a friend in the LAPD that has told us when they get a call to respond to that area after dark, they wait until the next morning. It's a no-mans-land that cops are rutinely shot at if they go there.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Jim Bremner

please delete this thread!

yeah, yeah, welcome to California, now go home

SD is good climate wise. For my money, Palo Alto probably has the best climate, plus it is within a few hours of Yosemite by car, which is the prettiest place there is.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

You can take point. I usually do better on high places several hundred yards away with someone spotting for me...

LOL, no problem.

[daepp]

68 deg. top off driving on Super Bowl Sunday.