ok, so i am gun shopping. defense shotgun.

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

I like the Benelli Nova over the 870, but the accessories will not be as plentiful.

You can say that again.

That 870 has a big following. Benelli, I love, but customer service is non-existent and anything for them takes a long time to get and is mucho $$$. (BUT THE BEST SHORT SHOTGUN IMHO).

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by aigel

The judge is a gimmick IMHO. It isn't as good as a revolver and not as good as a shotgun. I also do not think it is legal in the PRK.

G

And check with California DOJ, as the Judge could be prohibited in some areas as a short shotgun??? Please be sure. My brother has one and it is easy as heck to shoot. I like it.

[futurefun]

Originally Posted by futuresoptions

Go with the 500 or 870. In all my military and leo years, I never had on jam or miss fire on me. I have also owned both personally as well. Once you are familiar with them, you could load them blindfolded in the dark. I would only use brand new ammo (NO RELOADS) for home defense. This should lessen any possibilities of a malfunction.... just my .02 good luck on the search!

My lady's Mossberg 500 with 18.5" barrel & full stock is fine for her to shoot. I have been thinking about buying my own 500 or 870.

[aigel]

Originally Posted by Danimal16

And check with California DOJ, as the Judge could be prohibited in some areas as a short shotgun??? Please be sure. My brother has one and it is easy as heck to shoot. I like it.

That's what I said. PRK = People's Republic of Kalifornia.

I really think the Judge is a poor weapon. It hardly puts any shot out (.410) and is seriously hampered as a 45 LC. Put buckshot in it and you may end up with 3 pellets if you are lucky!

G

[dhoward]

6 pellets of 00 buck in a 3" .410

[Hydrocket]

Originally Posted by dhoward

6 pellets of 00 buck in a 3" .410

I really like a .410 shotgun for home defense. And if 00 buck isn't enough for you (not sure why it wouldn't be), a slug has more energy in typical home defense ranges than even a .357 Magnum...way more than anyone needs for home defense.

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by aigel

That's what I said. PRK = People's Republic of Kalifornia.

I really think the Judge is a poor weapon. It hardly puts any shot out (.410) and is seriously hampered as a 45 LC. Put buckshot in it and you may end up with 3 pellets if you are lucky!

G

Your probably right, but a .410 shotgun shell is just a neat thought.

I like my 12 gauge benelli M1 but that is old school. A 410 or 20 gauge would probably accomplish the same thing. Also it depends on the load selection, heavy hunting loads for the first two with two 00 buck and a last round being a slug. Others experiences may be different, but my thought is if it is in the house, it will be at close quarters, the bird shot is not going to disperse very far. So even if you are close the offender may be very discouraged if it was not a fatal hit, the next two rounds will seal the deal. Oh I agree a stocked short shotgun is my preference.