Random Spoon Pics Thread

[sc_rufctr]

This one's for Jeff.

[sc_rufctr]

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

This one's for Jeff.

That makes baby Jesus cry.

[id10t]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Right arm of the free world!

Never did like the commonwealth pattern guns. Pistol grip has different ergonomics than the standard FAL, no bolt hold open on empty mag.

I should find a buyer for my walnut handguards, two 20 round mags, Canadian mag pouches and a 5 round mag....

[Por_sha911]

[Por_sha911]

Did you know that GLOCK built an A-10 pistol?

[id10t]

Originally Posted by John Rogers

Being a black powder shooter with well greased cast lead bullets my hi power experience comes from watching several winning long range (1000 yards) shooters and what and how they shoot. At our range in Sand Diego we had one fellow who was one of the first engineers to help design General Atomics' drones so he was very technical. His rifles used carbon fiber stocks, Badger barrels, Nightforce scopes and custom machined bolt actions. I looked at one of his data sheets and his 6.5 Creedmoor bullets were zooming along at about 4500 feet per second and he would use 3 barrels or so a year and he would just throw burned ones away and put in a new one. He told me he ordered half a dozen barrels every winter and was close friends with the barrel company owner.

He was more serious than I ever wanted to be and an example was his bullet path at 300 yards shooting was nearly flat while my 540 grain cast lead bullets arched about 16 feet before dropping back to the 300 yard target. So why did I type all this....well
if you to be very serious then it will take time and lots of $$$$$. Shortening the barrel slightly might work but how is the rifling doing at high velocity shooting and the muzzle crown and so on? Finally is there a competent gunsmith who can do your requested machining so the barrel will not be ruined.
John Rogers the oldracer

Next step in MLs is of course smokeless. Like this one.

One of a handful of .30 SMLs out there, built to mimic hot 30-06 or low end 300 magnum. Launching 150gr bullets at 3100+fps, into sub-MOA groups.

[varmint]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

That makes baby Jesus cry.

Just found out someone makes reproduction scopes.

[Jeff Higgins]

Montana Vintage Arms has been making extremely high quality reproduction scopes for decades. They are pretty much all you will see being used in the scope class at NRA Black Powder Cartridge Rifle matches.



I've been using their Soule long range rear sights, Hadley eye cups (with adjustable apertures), and spirit level front sights on my match rifles since the mid 1990's. The very best of their kind available.

Windage adjustment is a micrometer barrel. Each graduation on the knob is 1/2 minute of angle, one full turn is 2 1/2 MOA, and each graduation on the flat rearward facing scale represents one turn of the barrel, or 2 1/2 MOA:



Elevation adjustment features a vernier scale. With my sight radius, .010" is just about one minute of angle. Loosening the eyecup allows for elevation adjustment via the knob on top of the long screw. Tightening the eyecup locks it. 200 yard setting:



1,000 yard setting:



Front sight with spirit level and interchangeable apertures. The spirit level becomes very important as the eyecup gets adjusted further up the elevation scale:

[sc_rufctr]

That's amazing Jeff. Thanks!

I really like those older scope designs. I'm guessing the modern reproductions have excellent optics.

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by id10t

Right arm of the free world!

Never did like the commonwealth pattern guns. Pistol grip has different ergonomics than the standard FAL, no bolt hold open on empty mag.

I should find a buyer for my walnut handguards, two 20 round mags, Canadian mag pouches and a 5 round mag....

I carried one when I was in the Army more than 30 years ago.

They felt heavy and old fashioned but all of that changed once you started to send rounds down range.

And I don't remember ever having a stoppage. IMO they're one of the best rifles every made... The FAL or a G3?

[id10t]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

I carried one when I was in the Army more than 30 years ago.

They felt heavy and old fashioned but all of that changed once you started to send rounds down range.

And I don't remember ever having a stoppage. IMO they're one of the best rifles every made... The FAL or a G3?

FAL for sure. The G3 has all the same detractors - weight, nothing stellar as far as accuracy, etc - but also bring along a bit more felt recoil especially when shooting full auto.

[John Rogers]

I am not sure which gathers more attention at the range...the scope or a funny looking rifle with a bigass barrel. But when the percussion cap goes off none of that matters! here are a couple of pictures of two 45 caliber "slug" guns I made 10 years or so ago. The barrel on the rifle with the short scope is by the late Ron Smith who has made 90% or so of rifle barrels that have won matches in the past 20 years or so. The long scope rifle has a scope I made from scratch which has non coated lenses so only about the middle 60% of a sight picture is very clear. I did it this way as this way mimics the way 1800s scopes were made until the lens companies figured how to coat the glass. I used my Harbor Freight 3 in 1 lathe/mill/drill which was great but I sold it last year. Both are for sale on Gunbroker by the way.
John Rogers the oldracer

[Steve Carlton]

A friend of mine just purchased a P365-XMACRO COMP. She wanted a Sig and this is the one that was comfortable in her hand. Any positive remarks or suggestions I can share with her about her choice?

[sc_rufctr]

^^^ That looks a bit like the Ballerina pistol (movie).

[dmcummins]

I’ve posted this before, here is my 1885, 22 short , Winchester.

Its an original schutzen.

[dmcummins]

And it has scope mounts. I just don’t shoot the gun, but it would look good with a reproduction scope on it.

I should sell this, but don’t want to be bothered with handling it.

[Rick Lee]

I love my P365s. Great guns.

[john70t]

Saw a short of a grown man getting knocked on his butt backwards. Makes sense now

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[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by john70t

Saw a short of a grown man getting knocked on his butt backwards. Makes sense now

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None of those are the .577 Nitro Express. Top photo shows a modern wildcat round known as the .577 T-Rex (made for use in bolt action rifles, note the lack of the rim required for use in doubles) compared to the .308 Winchester.

Bottom photo is the .700 Nitro Express, a fairly modern day contrivance when compared to the traditional old Nitro Express calibers. No more than an exercise in pure ego and silliness that was, surprisingly, agreed to by Holland and Holland. More of a publicity stunt than anything else, really. A very wealthy customer just had to have "the biggest". So they built him one. I believe they have since made a few more. Equally useless one and all. Hell, the rifles weigh over 25 pounds - who on earth would carry one of those around?

As far as the "real" Nitro Express calibers, nobody actually hunts with the the bigger bores like this .577, nor the .600. They are a last ditch "stopping" rifle for when the client well and truly screws up the situation. The idea is to hit the critter hard enough to at least stun it long enough to finish killing it. Real "hunting" Nitro Express rifles are things like the .470 (the most popular of the bunch by far), the .450, and calibers in that range.

I've fired several .577 Nitro Express rifles over the years. Shooting one is most definitely not fun - recoil energy tops 120 foot pounds or so, even with rifle weights typically in the 15-18 pound range. Compare that to a sporter weight .30-'06 at about 18 ft lbs, a 3" magnum 12 gauge at almost 40 ft lbs, or something like my .458 Winchester Magnum at about 70 ft lbs.

Ammo is frightfully expensive for these things. Kynoch quit making it about the time I was born (the .458 Winchester Magnum filled the void that left), but Holland and Holland will supply it. I've seen it for about $80 per round. How they justify that is beyond me, there is nothing special about it in any way. Anyway, here is a real .577 Nitro, along with an 8mm Mauser (about like our .30-'06) for comparison. Not nearly as big as some would have us believe.