Random Spoon Pics Thread

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by tabs

Me like Bisley flat top in 45lc. Real one set you back majorely...so pietta is reasonable & can blast away. If you can find one..discontinued around 2004.

Thanks, I wanted one that I could shoot, as I won't fire the real Peacemaker. Like you said, too valuable.

[fred cook]

Bought this one today. It is a Model 1416 Anschutz 22lr made sometime between 1950 and 1958. So, it is somewhere between 61 and 69 years old! Magazine fed, 5 shot with (I think) a single set trigger! I especially like the folding leaf rear sight! Some pics:

[HardDrive]

What a beauty.

Originally Posted by fred cook

Bought this one today. It is a Model 1416 Anschutz 22lr made sometime between 1950 and 1958. So, it is somewhere between 61 and 69 years old! Magazine fed, 5 shot with (I think) a single set trigger! I especially like the folding leaf rear sight! Some pics:

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Thanks, I wanted one that I could shoot, as I won't fire the real Peacemaker. Like you said, too valuable.

Every real Peacemaker I own, I shoot extensively. It's kind of a myth to say they are "too valuable" to shoot. Some are, certainly, but most are not.

[Steve F]

" Model 1416 Anschutz 22lr "


I have it's twin brother, excellent rifle!!



Of course I lost it in a boating accident a while back....

[fred cook]

Originally Posted by Steve F

" Model 1416 Anschutz 22lr "


I have it's twin brother, excellent rifle!!



Of course I lost it in a boating accident a while back....

I found an old ad from a 1958 gun book that advertised this rifle as an "Anschutz Junior Varminter". They made a carbine version with the full length stock and this one referred to as a "Rifle". I don't think the 1416 designation started until a year or two later even though they were essentially the same gun. I really like learning about older guns and things that have mostly passed into obscurity! The original $58 price today would be about $530!

[sc_rufctr]

2 Chainz? Never hear of him but he's cool.

[allaircooled]

Got this one from my dad who got it from his grandfather. Have no clue what it is. Any ideas?

[fanaudical]

Any markings on the barrel?

[fred cook]

Originally Posted by allaircooled

Got this one from my dad who got it from his grandfather. Have no clue what it is. Any ideas?

TRUITT or TRUETT BROS. & CO.— Most likely Philadelphia, Pa. Makers of flintlock Kentucky rifles. This one is what is referred to as a "Hawken" style rifle. These guns were usually made in a heavy caliber (50 cal or bigger) and used to take big game such as buffalo. This is a purely iconic American arm probably dating to about 1830-1850 or thereabouts. The lock is referred to as a "back action" lock which became popular about the same time. You will see the same style lock on double barrel shotguns from the same period. The round insert in the stock is what is known as a "patch box" used to hold greased patches for reloading the rifle. All in all, a nice example and certainly valuable. The double set trigger is indicative of a higher priced gun and should add to the value. You should document the known provenance back to your great grandfather (names, dates, etc.) as that will add to the value. Hope this helps!

[allaircooled]

Originally Posted by fanaudical

Any markings on the barrel?

None. Only markings I found are in the photo.

Thanks Fred! That is some great info and I do appreciate it. My dad told me he had shot it a long time ago but I don’t believe it is in working order now. Maybe it would be better to get it looked at by a gun smith who knows these older firearms or just leave it alone?

Anyways thanks again.

[john70t]

(this one should be called Ken jr after dad)

[Racerbvd]

[tabs]

Originally Posted by fred cook

TRUITT or TRUETT BROS. & CO.— Most likely Philadelphia, Pa. Makers of flintlock Kentucky rifles. This one is what is referred to as a "Hawken" style rifle. These guns were usually made in a heavy caliber (50 cal or bigger) and used to take big game such as buffalo. This is a purely iconic American arm probably dating to about 1830-1850 or thereabouts. The lock is referred to as a "back action" lock which became popular about the same time. You will see the same style lock on double barrel shotguns from the same period. The round insert in the stock is what is known as a "patch box" used to hold greased patches for reloading the rifle. All in all, a nice example and certainly valuable. The double set trigger is indicative of a higher priced gun and should add to the value. You should document the known provenance back to your great grandfather (names, dates, etc.) as that will add to the value. Hope this helps!

The Truitt Bros Co were extant in Philadelphia from 1847 until 1861 when it became Truitt Co closing in 1863. They were Lock Makers only. So the rifle was made by someone else using a Truitt lock.

It is a half stock percussion rifle made in a whole gamut of calibers from .32 to over .60...Most were in smaller calibers as they were small game rifles or target rifles. Most popular would be .40 or .45. This type of percussion rifle was made from about 1840 until 1880 when metallic cartridges supplanted the now archaic muzzle loaders.

You rifle is a standard configuration Back Action lock which was common and has no real extras. It could have been ordered out of a catalog. As far as shooting it goes get a light down the bore to see how much pitting there is and how much rifling is left? The lock is a two stage, half cock and full cock, see if it works and holds. You have Double set triggers, pull the back trigger to set the front which becomes a "hair" trigger. They can be adjusted by the little screw in between the triggers. Use a Nipple Wrench to pull the Percussion nipple to make sure it comes out. It maybe rusted in place, that can be remedied either with penetrating oil and or a bit of heat...The idear here is if you do shoot it you want to be able to take it apart before you shoot so you do not run into trouble taking it apart after you shoot it.

If everything looks good to go, mic the bore to find out the caliber and then proceed to learn out how to load, shoot and CLEAN the rifle...With Black Powder you can not let them sit they must be cleaned to prevent them from rusting. They mostly are ball & patch affairs.

I have a Great Western Gun Works (1865-1923) JH Johnson of Pittsburgh, PA 40 cal percussion rifle that I shoot... I got that from a MO estate of the son of a back in the day black powder shooter who passed away in 1960.

[sc_rufctr]

[Bill Douglas]

Model 36. Going by the SN it's about a 1987 build. Surprisingly accurate.

[fred cook]

I built this a couple of weeks ago. It is a Ruger 10/22 with a "kit" to make it look like a Thompson SMG. The long magazine is actually a 10 rd Ruger mag with an extension added. Loads of fun to shoot! I'm working on a way to move the cocking knob to the top like the real one has! Also working on converting a steel 50 rd drum mag to work in the Ruger!

[varmint]

Originally Posted by fred cook

I built this a couple of weeks ago. It is a Ruger 10/22 with a "kit" to make it look like a Thompson SMG. The long magazine is actually a 10 rd Ruger mag with an extension added. Loads of fun to shoot! I'm working on a way to move the cocking knob to the top like the real one has! Also working on converting a steel 50 rd drum mag to work in the Ruger!

Very very cool.

[Jim Bremner]

Any owners of a Walter P7 here?

Anyone know of a single stack magazine that looks like a 1911 mag but has a larger front lip that's more square? I have two that are marked IA 45 they look about 8 rounds of 45ACP.

[Rick Lee]

You mean a Walther P77 or an H&K P7? Worlds apart.