Anyone using the Knee Defender? - Page 6

calimedeiros · calimedeiros's Garage

Man we have had reclining seats forever
Is this what us humans people are coming to these days we can't seem to get along with anyone were to quick to find fault
Were looking for excuses to complaint about every damn thing
What happen to good old comon sense and human friendly
I certainly don't look forward to the future of how things are going the saying my friend says look after number one (me) **** the rest cause it's getting shorty in this world
I read about this on cnn this morning along with isis and Russia violence all negative
Makes me sad
Makes me just drive my. 911 and forget about what's happening cause it's all caused by greed and religion greed

stomachmonkey · 08-31-2014, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rattlsnak

...people taking their shoes off...

If my FIL took his shoes off in the plane you know it before you heard the first complaint.

Bob Kontak · Bob Kontak's Garage

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Originally Posted by gprsh924

Frequent flyers don't recline (as a rule of thumb).

And please don't ask to climb over me on a short flight to use the bathroom. Go before you board and once you deplane. It's not that hard.

Agree on the not reclining. I always ask if it's going to be an inconvenience to the person behind me.

If I do have to drain the lizard, I apologize profusely.

As to those making fat-ass comments, stuff it. I have had way less space invaded by tubbies than big people. Not fat, big.

Ferraripete · Ferraripete's Garage

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Originally Posted by rwest

I've never reclined my seat in a plane, because I know that with how tight the airlines pack us in, I would be making the person behind me uncomfortable. We're all in this together and if we want to fly cheaply, we need to make sacrifices. I believe that not reclining is less of a sacrifice to my comfort than the sacrifice that a person has forced upon them in the form of having a seat back in their personnel space and a barely usable tray table.

My opinion: the airline ought to disable the recline feature in rows that are too tight to allow both passengers to enjoy the flight.

this is a nice response...I bet many really appreciate your courtesy.

Ferraripete · Ferraripete's Garage

I am gold with us air and united. most of my flights are made the day before I travel. this year has been terrible for me getting my usual first class upgrades. I have flown coach far too much this year. I am 6-4 and on any boeing product my knees are simply dead pressed against the seat back. I can usually tell when the moron in front of me will fail to take notice that I am quite tall and will try to push the seat back...my knees are not going anywhere and neither is the seat back in front of me. if they turn around to see the problem I am always happy to ask them how long it was going to take them to realize that the seat was NOT moving? I am a very r\frequent flyer and tall thus I am very aware that the person behind me deserves a bit of courtesy as well.

airbus product is a bit better provisioned but let's face it, some airlines like to pack the passengers in a bit tighter than others.

not easy to be tall and have to fly coach

campbellcj · 08-31-2014, 09:58 PM

I used to fly a whole lot, and have suffered just about every imaginable hassle. If someone pulled this crap on me, the airline would have to address it or else they would hear flak from me until they did. Usually they are extremely sensitive about anyone messing with their equipment so I find it hard to believe they have not already set forth a ban on these gadgets or any other means of tampering.

cstreit · cstreit's Garage

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Originally Posted by rattlsnak

Don't worry, just an inside joke. It's a common saying up front. Of course we care about our pax, but you would not believe the things I saw on a daily basis between pax. People getting in arguments about other people taking their shoes off, or lifting armrests or sunshades, etc.. it is never ending. As I mentioned earlier, if it gets to us up front, I always try to help the situation by having them swap seats, moving around etc. Basically trying to make everybody happy.

I follow more of the 'why can't we all get along' rule..!

No doubt it's much like driving a bus full of school children some days with the sense of entitlement some people have. Here's the the thing, the cheap fares, lack of personal space, and a million other things have made air travel basically like a GreyHound bus now.

dw1 · 09-01-2014, 10:59 AM

I used to fly a lot more than I do now, but I decided because of all the hassles at the airports that I'll drive if I can. Airline seats, and what they do to my knees (I'm well over 6 ft tall) are a big part of the problem

It helps that I got a newer car recently, and both that one and my wife's car are comfortable and economical long-range highway cruisers.

Last month, I visited relatives in FL, taking roughly 1 1/2 days to get there from northern NJ and it was quite a pleasure compared to flying. My wife commented repeatedly how we didn't have to worry about leg room, how comfortable the seats were compared to airline ones, how we didn't have to queue, could set our own departure time, etc.

Por_sha911 · Por_sha911's Garage

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Bottom line: You're an a$$hat if you recline.

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I don't ride in the back often enough to care what the cattle is doing back there.

Asshats and cattle. This is your attitude and compassion for other people? I guess its a good think you are not a doctor or EMT.

TechnoViking · TechnoViking's Garage

I travel a lot. I lean my seat back. Deal with it.

Gogar · 09-01-2014, 12:13 PM

This is really shaping up to be one of the stupidestestest threads ever.

speeder · speeder's Garage

I haven't been on a Greyhound bus a few decades but I'll take a WAG that they are a hell of a lot more luxurious and roomy than a domestic airliner these days.

Seahawk · 09-01-2014, 12:31 PM

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I haven't been on a Greyhound bus a few decades but I'll take a WAG that they are a hell of a lot more luxurious and roomy than a domestic airliner these days.

A few years ago we finished some work in Las Vegas earlier than anticipated. Best flight I could get out early was from San Diego. The young men working for me wanted an extra night in Vegas...

Rather than rent a car, I took an early bus out from mcc right to Lindbergh. Wifi, big seats, hauled serious hinnie non stop.

The biggest difference in air travel the last fifteen years is the nearly complete absence of decorum throughout.

Hugh R · 09-01-2014, 12:34 PM

We take Greyhound-type buses on Tech Scouts sometimes. Not Greyhound, put private ones that are pretty nice.

motion · 09-01-2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911

Asshats and cattle. This is your attitude and compassion for other people? I guess its a good think you are not a doctor or EMT.

Nope, he says its an inside joke. But, I have friends on this boards who are also pilots, and I know they would never say things like that on a public forum.

imcarthur · imcarthur's Garage

C'mon, Motion. Even I refer to economy as cattle class - and I am one of the herd. A pilot's job is just to get the cattle hauler to destination safely & on time (when possible). And it's up to the poor FAs to herd us on/off & slop us. We are just seat-fillers - nothing more.

Ian

rattlsnak · rattlsnak's Garage

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Asshats and cattle. This is your attitude and compassion for other people? I guess its a good think you are not a doctor or EMT.

Compassion for other people would be to NOT recline in their laps.

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Nope, he says its an inside joke. But, I have friends on this boards who are also pilots, and I know they would never say things like that on a public forum.

You have obviously never been to an airline forum.

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C'mon, Motion. Even I refer to economy as cattle class - and I am one of the herd. A pilot's job is just to get the cattle hauler to destination safely & on time (when possible). And it's up to the poor FAs to herd us on/off & slop us. We are just seat-fillers - nothing more.

Ian

imcarthur for president!!

motion · 09-01-2014, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by imcarthur

C'mon, Motion. Even I refer to economy as cattle class - and I am one of the herd. A pilot's job is just to get the cattle hauler to destination safely & on time (when possible). And it's up to the poor FAs to herd us on/off & slop us. We are just seat-fillers - nothing more.

Ian

I do too! But, I'm not a pilot!