Nearly killed two people and I don't care because I was stung by a wasp

[javadog]

+1, that's a good start. If he's looking at $15k out of pocket for bond, my guess is that he'll be stewing in jail for a while.

JR

[javadog]

From: William Crum sends Granbury motorcyclists to the ditch, not his first encounter with law enforcement - News - The Glen Rose Reporter - Glen Rose, TX

On July 28, 1989, Crum was arrested by Arlington police for assault and family violence, and later charged and sentenced to one-year's probation. He was also force to pay an undisclosed restitution. Fast forward a few years to Aug. 23, 1993, Crum was picked up by Granbury PD for silent or abusive calls to a 9-1-1 service – a class B misdemeanor that was later dismissed after he recognized himself as the culprit prior to the case being deferred on Sept. 9, 1993.

All illegal, but not exactly relatable to the current charge.

Six months and change later, Crum was scooped up by Somervell County sheriff’s deputies for unauthorized use of a motor vehicle – a 3rd degree felony he plead no contest to. Crum was convicted of the charge on Sept. 26, 1994, which resulted in an $87 court cost, 80 hours of community service and two years of community supervision.

Thirteen years later, he was again found to be improperly using a vehicle by the Somervell County Sheriff’s Department. Crum was observed to be driving recklessly on March 28, 2007, but this time was also charged with making a terroristic threat. Despite pleading 'not guilty' to the charge of making a terroristic threat, he was later convicted of both charges and confined to two years in jail, while being forced to pay $500 in court fines and a $612 court fines.

Crum is currently in custody as of press time.

[wayner]

Originally Posted by Holger

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I hate it when bikers think they are above the law, dont stay in line or squeeze through traffic when there is a traffic jam. Often I just want to open my door in that very moment.
And: there is a reason there are lines and traffic signs.

Oops, don't move to California where all that is legal to keep traffic moving.

[vash]

Originally Posted by gorthar

Driver Arrested For Granbury Motorcycle Crash « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth

thanks!!! i wanted some closure.

funny the article said it was a spider..must have been that mystical spider-wasp. yikes!!

[Arizona_928]

High sided that one. Can't be grabbing that much rear brake two up.

[rammstein]

If a wasp stung me causing me to swerve into a motorcycle, the first words out of my mouth wouldn't be "I don't care". Old man is guilty of trying to bring great harm to those riders. Period.

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by motion

OMG. What kind of alternate reality do you live in?

It is amazing.

That someone could watch that video in its entirety, including the guy's statements afterwards, and then, using their best perception, logic, common sense and life experiences, come to the conclusion: "I don't see how the video is going to lead to felony charges. There is no evidence the guy did it on purpose and not caring about some dumbass who almost wrecked into your car is not a felony."

It's remarkable (but not surprising any more).

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by McLovin

It is amazing.

That someone could watch that video in its entirety, including the guy's statements afterwards, and then, using their best perception, logic, common sense and life experiences, come to the conclusion: "I don't see how the video is going to lead to felony charges. There is no evidence the guy did it on purpose and not caring about some dumbass who almost wrecked into your car is not a felony."

That's me and I would say it again.
I do not see how the video, without any other evidence, past history, or comments by the old guy, could convict him.
I've been driving on four lane highways where you would expect to be passed on the left and had people try to move left into me. It happens, and it's not always intentional. My reaction to some jackass in a helmet and a camera coming at me would probably not be, "I don't care," but it would definitely not be conciliatory. In the end the old guy proved himself to be a jackass and probably guilty, but I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt, which is the right thing to do.

[David]

I've served on two felony juries and myself and eleven other people sent two guys to prison with a lot less evidence than this video. Zero doubt and reasonable doubt are two very different standards to meet.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by McLovin

It is amazing.

That someone could watch that video in its entirety, including the guy's statements afterwards, and then, using their best perception, logic, common sense and life experiences, come to the conclusion: "I don't see how the video is going to lead to felony charges. There is no evidence the guy did it on purpose and not caring about some dumbass who almost wrecked into your car is not a felony."

It's remarkable (but not surprising any more).

Completely agree. Benefit of the doubt is one thing, but the guy's appalling lack of empathy on exiting the vehicle tells me all I need to know. His comments tell me he did it on purpose, and that if the guy were bleeding out, he would only feel remorse at being caught.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

Because people are stupid. Very rarely are any collisions truly "accidents". Most are the result of inattention, sloth, or stupidity. I include any substance-impairment in the "stupidity" bucket. About the only things I would call "accidents" are where animals come out of the woods and run into your car. Or where a rock falls from above, or a mudslide - stuff that no reasonable person could possibly foresee.

So true.

I've been teaching my kids from a very young age that what they call "accidents" are actually "avoidable unintentionals with varying degrees of probability".

An example would be, the more times you throw the ball in the house the higher the probability that you will unintentionally break your mothers favorite lamp.

[javadog]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

That's me and I would say it again.
I do not see how the video, without any other evidence, past history, or comments by the old guy, could convict him.

Aside from your apparent lack of common sense, let's have a look at the facts.

He crossed the center line. Violation.
He caused a collision. Violation.
He was driving carelessly, recklessly, your choice of degree. Violation.

That's three tickets he could have been written on the spot.

Add in his complete lack of empathy, his varying story... stung by a wasp, no it was a spider, on my leg, no it was my crotch, no, on my tendon, which swelled up and now I can't walk, or I have a limp....

Newsflash; the average person can't even feel a spider bite when it happens. He should have stuck to the wasp. He also better get the wasp sting documented, or it's going to be so much BS in the trial.

Oh wait, there was no wasp sting. Oops.

I would have run hard, to get to the people that were hurt, had that been me. I would have been on the phone getting an ambulance, police, etc. Any normal person would have done the same thing.

JR

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

That's me and I would say it again.
I do not see how the video, without any other evidence, past history, or comments by the old guy, could convict him.

Actually, you said you didn't see how that video was enough to charge him (not convict him).

It's an odd statement, because the odds of being charged with that video being made public is pretty much 100% (as was quickly proven true).

This case is a prosecutor's dream. Every single prosecutor in the country would bring charges with that video in hand.

[McLovin]

Oh, and BTW, his chance of conviction is also pretty much 100%, if he's foolish enough to not take a plea bargain and lets this go to trial.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

That's me and I would say it again.
I do not see how the video, without any other evidence, past history, or comments by the old guy, could convict him.
I've been driving on four lane highways where you would expect to be passed on the left and had people try to move left into me. It happens, and it's not always intentional. My reaction to some jackass in a helmet and a camera coming at me would probably not be, "I don't care," but it would definitely not be conciliatory. In the end the old guy proved himself to be a jackass and probably guilty, but I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt, which is the right thing to do.

Your response to this video is nothing short of bizarre. You do not see the actions of the driver and think that it could have been an honest mistake(?), you continually focus on the other rider approaching the guy immediately afterwards, etc., etc...

If I saw someone try to murder my friend with his car, I can't say for sure how I'd react in the immediate aftermath. The other guy's response, (jackass w helmet, in your words), was almost incredibly restrained. Seriously. I lot of people would have broken his neck, with adrenaline flowing. This was not just a drunk driver who caused an accident, as some other poster tried to frame it a few pages back. This was intentional and he just witnessed it. His friends are laying in the ditch injured. But to you, his response was inappropriate and that's what matters here.

What a strange man you are.

[sand_man]

I also wonder if the old coot had a passenger with him??? Maybe someone that can confirm (lie) the spider-wasp sting, or indicate that we was agitated about the young hooligans and their tom-foolery ("watch this, I'll show them")!

[gtc]

I don't like that old man or those motorcyclists. Can we put them both in jail for a while?

Originally Posted by AFC-911

I don't see anyone defending the old man.

I just see posters who don't like bikers very much or at all, for that matter.

[sand_man]

Originally Posted by gtc

I don't like that old man or those motorcyclists. Can we put them both in jail for a while?

HHHMMM, seems too logical!

[speeder]

Originally Posted by AFC-911

Yeah...I wouldn't be happy if a biker passed me on a double yellow.

I like other motorists to be predictable...That action isn't.

Originally Posted by Holger

This happened in the US right? Well, he feared for his life! Maybe the bikers wanted to rob him, how should he know? He had no gun to draw so he used his car.
Simple.
Of course he did it on purpose.

I hate it when bikers think they are above the law, dont stay in line or squeeze through traffic when there is a traffic jam. Often I just want to open my door in that very moment.
And: there is a reason there are lines and traffic signs.

Originally Posted by AFC-911

A lot of bikers in the US are dbags. That's why no one likes the entire group.

I've had this very thought as well.

I hate door dings more, though.

You must be one weak fk behind the wheel. What are you doing on a car forum?

Traffic by definition is chaotic and unpredictable at times. Good drivers adapt to changes in traffic almost instinctually.

You "like other motorists to be predictable..."

Ride the bus, fool.

[speeder]

Or drive an Olds Trofeo.