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An example would be my situation where I work. I have mentored a fair number of junior engineers over the course of my career. With the guys, we often find an empty conference room for some "heart to heart" discussion, or go to lunch, or meet after work for a beer. A good deal of really frank information is relayed in these private get-togethers, "off the record", so to speak. Things you can't say "officially", but are vital to their development. I would never even consider doing that with a woman. All interaction is "official" and in front of other people, kept at a very "professional" level.
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I stay FAR away from wimmen in the workplace. You always assume they are batschitz crazy. They should be home making sammies and assuring the beer is cold for when the HINC gets home.
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You need to defend this very aggressively. I like to have my patients write the date they start using the insoles on the bottom with a sharpie. A1C of 6 is pretty darn good, especially if you are getting older. Be diligent. NOt surprising your regular foot guy sent you to someone that is doing wound care. Seems like new stuff is coming out all the time.
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Could not get in touch with a lawyer before I had to file my comments with HR.
Wrote, "I disagree with the accuracy of these statements. I did not threaten the interests or safety of (her). I did not sexually or racially harass (her). I understand she was offended and would like the opportunity to apologize."
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what a ****ing dip s hit she is. Probably a snowflake too.
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Asking for a chance to apologize makes it sound like 'I was wrong, I need to apologize'.
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Felt I had to state something about disagreeing with the accusations and that I did NOT do the actions specified was necessary. Especially since the report was going on my record. The understanding she was offended and the opportunity to apologize for offending her shows I am an adult and not out for some kind of revenge. People can be offended by anything, that doesn't make it harassment. The adult way to handle being offended is to let the person know you were offended. That gives them the OPPORTUNITY to apologize and refrain from offending you in the future. Children go tattle tale when they are offended.
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Sorry, I don't agree. I hope they see it your way.
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Yeah, hope I didn't screw myself. Consulted with a lot of people and they stated offering to apologize was important as it showed I had no malicious intent.
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Yeah you should apologize... Tell her you're sorry she's such a bat-schit crazy idiot.
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Sending you a PM Richard
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Had an "issue" with a subordinate a few months back , she took "issue" with me saying "maybe instead of chatting in the back hallway you could do your f'n job".
Meeting gets scheduled by supervisor to "discuss". Day before I stop by the office with my statement of "I'll go to the meeting but I'm absolutely not signing anything you put in front of me". That didn't go over very well but nothing went on my record . In my business "gov't construction inspection" , if it's not an issue with office staff it's someone who thinks for one moment it's ok to leave the house prior to an inspection and leave kids there to let me in.... like oh hell no |
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The problem with the harassment thing has been going on for years, and Jeff's comments are true. I worked in education and was early on advised about it, and that advice was decades ago. When I was teaching, I never allowed myself to be alone with a female student. Later on in other programs, I practiced the same with female participants and female coworkers in those programs. The best I would do as far as being alone with a female was in an office with windows where everybody in the office could look in. I once had a female coworker comment that I was going to show her my "tool." I told her I was flattered but only showed it to one woman at a time, plus guys had to be always careful of the liabilities in the workplace. If it had been the other way around, and I asked her to show me her "tool box," I would have been in trouble.
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Offering to apologize for what, you made a blanket statement. It implies you might have something to apologize for. So you gave her more ammo.
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More neutral would be simply stating; Clearly, I had no sexual nor malicious intent.
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Excuse my ignorance, but is it true about the foreskins?
Sounds like you have a had a rough go lately. You have people here to talk to.
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So that's where all that foreskin goes.
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