The HEALTH thread

[Gus Berges]

My wife is a certified health coach. Follow her on Instagram @elenashealthyways for healthy tips as well as her blogs for many recipes that can help with overall health (nutrition and mindset).

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Jandrews

How many mmHG do you recommend for everyday use for someone who thinks they don't need them? Any particular brand?

JA

I don't really "need" them, and use 15 mmHg or less. You start out too high you may not be able to put them on or tolerate wearing them. Start low and work your way up.

Juzo, Jobst are good brands. Mediven uses a layered approach. A pair of 15 mm on top of another pair of 15 mm gives higher compression, but is not so difficult to put on. There are assistive devices for this, Doff'n'donner, which is really the cat's ass for this sort of thing, or various frames you stretch it over and slide your foot into.

Oh yeah, take the stairs, you fat, fish belly white MFers

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by Tobra

Wear the support stockings with the hiking socks over the top of them. If you were my patient, I would tell you to put an extra blanket over the foot of the bed, rather than wear socks to bed, and never wear tight socks to bed.

Are you saying wear (regular - cheap sports socks you get by the bag at Costco) socks to bed is bad? We do have a blanket over the foot of the bed but wife and I have thermostat wars, she is from the PNW and wants it 62 I'm from SoCal and I want it at 68. I'm 60 with type 2 and it seems like my feet at always cold (except when I'm wearing shoes.)

[Tobra]

Are your feet actually cold, or do they just feel like they are cold? Neuropathy can do some trippy things to you.

You probably should not be wearing tight socks to bed. Loose, open weave type of sock, sure, but tight ones, not to bed. You can get an electric blanket that has separate controls for each side of the bed.

[ckelly78z]

Most of the overweight people I see have one thing in common, they don't get up, and move nearly enough to help digest the food they just ate. I notice that these cold days where I stay inside by the fire, I feel sluggish, and my weight goes up. A day like today, that was 40 degrees, and sunny, I ended up working on a tractor, walking the property, and being more active, and had to poop as soon as I got indoors.....something that doesn't happen while vegging in front of the TV.

[McLovin]

I agree on magnesium. I think most people are deficient in magnesium. It's hard to measure, because it's intracellular magnesium levels that count (not blood level). There is a test for intracellular mag levels, I think it's called an "EXA test," but it's not usually done. If you are mag deficient, your body will lose it first at the intracellular level, then the blood level. So even if your blood tests fine, you can still be deficient.

For magnesium supplements, the most commonly available is is magnesium oxide. That also is the form that is least absorbed by the body (something like 6% is absorbed).

The chelated forms of magnesium are much better absorbed. These are the ones such as magnesium glycinate, taurate, malate, citrate, etc.

I like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GW4V7MC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

IMO this is a good supplement for anyone.

I also have a glass of low sodium V8 juice every morning, which has around 1500mg of potassium. US RDA for potassium is around 3500-4000mg. Take a look at your diet and see how much potassium you are getting every day!

[Baz]

Originally Posted by McLovin

I agree on magnesium. I think most people are deficient in magnesium. It's hard to measure, because it's intracellular magnesium levels that count (not blood level). There is a test for intracellular mag levels, I think it's called an "EXA test," but it's not usually done. If you are mag deficient, your body will lose it first at the intracellular level, then the blood level. So even if your blood tests fine, you can still be deficient.

For magnesium supplements, the most commonly available is is magnesium oxide. That also is the form that is least absorbed by the body (something like 6% is absorbed).

The chelated forms of magnesium are much better absorbed. These are the ones such as magnesium glycinate, taurate, malate, citrate, etc.

I like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GW4V7MC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

IMO this is a good supplement for anyone.

I also have a glass of low sodium V8 juice every morning, which has around 1500mg of potassium. US RDA for potassium is around 3500-4000mg. Take a look at your diet and see how much potassium you are getting every day!

Thanks, McLovin. Very interesting and something I will research some more. I was at the store (Publix) today picking up a few things and remembered Peter's post about Magnesium so picked this one up which looks like the source material is Magnesium Stearate. I bought the 200 tablet bottle as pictured (cost was around $6.50) so will have a 200 day supply until I decide what Magnesium supplement product to purchase next.

[Baz]

Originally Posted by Gus Berges

My wife is a certified health coach. Follow her on Instagram @elenashealthyways for healthy tips as well as her blogs for many recipes that can help with overall health (nutrition and mindset).

Hey Gus....thanks so much for the head's up. I just checked out Elena's website and wow - very impressive! I look forward to browsing through it over the next week or so.

Please tell her for us THANK YOU and keep up the fantastic work!

[gsxrken]

Drink a glass of water when you wake up to thin the blood.
https://www.t-nation.com/living/tip-do-this-first-thing-in-the-am

[Baz]

Originally Posted by gsxrken

Drink a glass of water when you wake up to thin the blood.
https://www.t-nation.com/living/tip-do-this-first-thing-in-the-am

I just drank a glass of water a little earlier and was telling myself I need to drink more water each day. Then you posted this.

Great tip - thanks!

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by Baz

Thanks, McLovin. Very interesting and something I will research some more. I was at the store (Publix) today picking up a few things and remembered Peter's post about Magnesium so picked this one up which looks like the source material is Magnesium Stearate. I bought the 200 tablet bottle as pictured (cost was around $6.50) so will have a 200 day supply until I decide what Magnesium supplement product to purchase next.

Hmm, I think I'd toss that and start over.

First, are you sure it doesn't say it's "Magnesium (from magnesium oxide)" on the back? Because all the Nature Made magnesiums that I've ever seen are magnesium oxide. Post a pic of the back of the bottle and let's see.

Second, I'm not sure you want stearate in your mag supplement. Google magnesium stearate for more info on that. E.g. http://www.nutrigold.com/Why-Say-NO-to-Magnesium-Stearate-in-Supplements

There are a lot of good mag glycinates, taurates and malates out there (check amazon), I'd go for one of those (or a combo of those) instead.

[McLovin]

Mag and potassium are IMO *really* important.

There is a big increase in heart disease (like afib) and others that has happened over the last few decades, and IMO it's largely nutrition related. It happened to me.

[Baz]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Hmm, I think I'd toss that and start over.

First, are you sure it doesn't say it's "Magnesium (from magnesium oxide)" on the back? Because all the Nature Made magnesiums that I've ever seen are magnesium oxide. Post a pic of the back of the bottle and let's see.

Second, I'm not sure you want stearate in your mag supplement. Google magnesium stearate for more info on that. E.g. Why Say NO to Magnesium Stearate in Supplements

There are a lot of good mag glycinates, taurates and malates out there (check amazon), I'd go for one of those (or a combo of those) instead.

Thanks again for the input, McLovin. I will look into this further and if need be return the product to Publix for a refund.

All I wanted was some Magnesium.....sheesh.

In my line of work when we want a Magnesium supplement - we get some Epsom salts (Magnesium sulfate) and we're done!

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I don't really "need" them, and use 15 mmHg or less. You start out too high you may not be able to put them on or tolerate wearing them. Start low and work your way up.

Juzo, Jobst are good brands. Mediven uses a layered approach. A pair of 15 mm on top of another pair of 15 mm gives higher compression, but is not so difficult to put on. There are assistive devices for this, Doff'n'donner, which is really the cat's ass for this sort of thing, or various frames you stretch it over and slide your foot into.

Oh yeah, take the stairs, you fat, fish belly white MFers

Thanks for coming back with all of the good info, Tobra.

[Baz]

For those interested in Yoga.......

10 Steps to Perfect Sun Salutations (article from 2008)

Having trouble with those sun salutations? Learn how to do a perfect sun salutation in 10 easy steps and modify them to suit your mood and energy level.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I don't really "need" them, and use 15 mmHg or less. You start out too high you may not be able to put them on or tolerate wearing them. Start low and work your way up.

Juzo, Jobst are good brands. Mediven uses a layered approach. A pair of 15 mm on top of another pair of 15 mm gives higher compression, but is not so difficult to put on. There are assistive devices for this, Doff'n'donner, which is really the cat's ass for this sort of thing, or various frames you stretch it over and slide your foot into.

Oh yeah, take the stairs, you fat, fish belly white MFers

Jobst in black, blue, khaki and white available on Amazon (Prime) for $11-16.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HYPTE6/

Tobra, do you use something like the Doff n Donner to get your socks on? It's it that hard with the 15mmHg or is that for stuff that's tighter?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Baz

For those interested in Yoga.......

10 Steps to Perfect Sun Salutations (article from 2008)

If you want to do yoga at home, and you're fairly comfortable that you can mimick what someone else is doing on video, you may like the stuff by these two folks. Neither are too "new agey" if that turns you off. They both have easy to fairly hard stuff. Both are well done videos with various differences in their styles. I like both, but the missus doesn't like the speed at which the girl goes through the poses.

Yoga with Tim Senesi
https://www.youtube.com/user/yogawithtim

Tara Stiles
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tara+stiles+yoga

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Baz

Thanks again for the input, McLovin. I will look into this further and if need be return the product to Publix for a refund.

All I wanted was some Magnesium.....sheesh.

In my line of work when we want a Magnesium supplement - we get some Epsom salts (Magnesium sulfate) and we're done!

You can "drink" some of the epsom salts too, but that may also have other more "cleansing" effects on you.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Gus Berges

My wife is a certified health coach. Follow her on Instagram @elenashealthyways for healthy tips as well as her blogs for many recipes that can help with overall health (nutrition and mindset).

https://elenashealthyways.com/

[masraum]

Interesting, I've recently heard some talk about a place that does a bunch of fancy health/healing therapies. One is "Drip" therapy which is basically an IV with things added to give you energy, detox, reduce inflammation, etc.... Another is cryotherapy where they make you cold for 3 minutes. THen there's hyperbaric therapy and compression therapy and infrared sauna therapy (the current blog on Gus's wife's site is about this).

Anyone have any experience or thoughts on any of these?