Cosby guilty on all charges.

[Racerbvd]

[masraum]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

I have not followed this diligently..
But,- some one explains to me, "How rape cases 20 years old with no proof other then "he did it" gets the nod?"
Next- Were not all these women in a motel with him?
What were they supposedly there for?
Tea?
Perhaps it did not go quite so romantically.....
Again- Why were they all there?
It would seem if you go to a motel room with someone this would be considered consenting?
Don't get me wrong I would guess with all the hoopla, he might be guilty...
However-
I think this opens the door for a lot of women that might want to get even about something.
Men had better consider getting a consummated contract with said partner B4 embarking on that free for all that might equal freedoms lost.

Something like 60 women came forward, but only one woman was able to get him in court because her even occurred in 2004 so it was probably something like 12-13 years ago when this started.

I think over the years, there were lots of women in lots of places.

If you give someone drugs to make them unconscious or unable to react, that's not consensual.

Did some of the women knowingly take the drugs (probably not expecting the results that they got) and did some of the women get "mickeyed", I don't know.

I believe the woman that went to court had been some sort of student and he had been her mentor for something.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

It would seem if you go to a motel room with someone this would be considered consenting?

Seriously?

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by yellowperil

Well, if he still had his CSX 3303 Supersnake Cobra

My scarf.......was limp.

[Cajundaddy]

"We used to steal the wheels... off baby carriages to make go carts."

This was my intro to Cosby in the 60s. A clean comic that was funny as hell. I followed this guy my whole life and really liked his work. When this stuff came out about drugging/raping women I thought it was total BS. I was wrong. I was wrong about OJ in the beginning as well. "No way this awesome running back does this crime."

Innocence lost.

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

I have not followed this diligently..
But,- some one explains to me, "How rape cases 20 years old with no proof other then "he did it" gets the nod?"
Next- Were not all these women in a motel with him?
What were they supposedly there for?
Tea?
Perhaps it did not go quite so romantically.....
Again- Why were they all there?
It would seem if you go to a motel room with someone this would be considered consenting?
Don't get me wrong I would guess with all the hoopla, he might be guilty...
However-
I think this opens the door for a lot of women that might want to get even about something.
Men had better consider getting a consummated contract with said partner B4 embarking on that free for all that might equal freedoms lost.

I am a little more in tune because this is all occurring in my area so it's all over the TV and radio.

He was accused by 60 women but only one brought charges against him. The accuser that brought charges was apparently in his home in the Philadelphia suburbs. Much of the talk is that the We too movement was putting a lot of pressure on the prosecutor and the judge. The prosecutor supposed retried the case due to the pressure and the judge allowed some of the other accusers to testify where is in the first trial he did not allow others to testify. They are saying that brought more credibility to the accuser.

I always liked Cosby especially fat albert growing up. I was a bit older when the Cosby show was on the air so I didn't watch it regularly but it was a good show.

[Tidybuoy]

Originally Posted by Ziggythecat

Called it a big money grab, by all those women...58 to be exact, even though the statute of limitations was long past.

They liked old Cos, the guy that lectured the black community on how they should behave.

I think you could still call it a "money Grab", he did pay Constand $3.8mil in 2005.

Maybe Cosby is not the one that should be lecturing the black community but I think it is fair to say that some still need the lecture on behaviour.

Originally Posted by masraum

If you give someone drugs to make them unconscious or unable to react, that's not consensual.

I have no data to back up my comment but maybe he gave them drugs because he had a huge member and nothing would be happening without some form of relaxation and maybe the lady knew that. Of course it that was the case, I would think that would have come out in court. Jus sayin

[70SATMan]

Tonto.

Makes me really sad. Still have my albums, will keep them and still listen and appreciate the genius of his comedy but, will now forever be tinged by an asterisk.

Man did the crime and needs to do the time until death he does part.

[Crowbob]

Originally Posted by Ziggythecat

geez, if my memory is correct, all the cons came to his defense when he was first " outed" as a serial sexual abuser/ rapist.
Sammy, with his trove of cartoons, was among the loudest to condemn the women...all of them.

Called it a big money grab, by all those women...58 to be exact, even though the statute of limitations was long past.
They liked old Cos, the guy that lectured the black community on how they should behave.

Now, he's trashing the rapist.
About time, there, Spammy.
But I'll bet you were hoping he'd pull an OJ and walk away clean.

Your memory is not correct.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy

but maybe he gave them drugs because he had a huge member and nothing would be happening without some form of relaxation and maybe the lady knew that.

Nah.

Wimmens can handle big wieners. In fact, I have heard stories where they like 'em.

Just ask around. I think EVERY woman would choose to be present rather than being drugged.

He got issues.

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

Like I said --it has been less then loosely followed here.
I am sure with 40 women involved there is a lot of truth to it all.
BUT-
No statute of limitations?
Why were these woman alone with the man? In motel/hotel rooms?
It would seem...........fishy.
If a woman came to your hotel room for a glass of wine....
She is there for more then that.
Just not quite the way she planned with his fetish.
I would like to hear them explain why they were there in the first place.

I agree I am sure some if not many of the women knew what they were getting into and wanted in. But some say he forced himself on them and didn't want in (like how I worded that?) and drugged them and took advantage of them. The accuser is in this category. Supposedly the incident occurred in 2004 while she was at his Philadelphia home for business. Statutes of limitations hasn't expired. Another reason to follow Mike Pence's lead.

For what it's worth I don't think we should have a statue of limitations. If you commit a significant crime it should stand forever.

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

OK-thanx
I guess I should have paid attn.
I just do not see how they proved this, being so so long a time ago.
"Guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt" always plays in my ears.
Perhaps because so many came fwd many? The many , Tilted the scales?

Again pressure was being put on the prosecutor and the judge by the We Too people. Supposedly that pressure is what caused the prosecutor to retry the case and the judge to allow the alleged other victims testimony. The first trial ended in a hung jury. One of the other things I heard on the radio today before the verdict was, when the prosecution retries a case they have an advantage as they already have defense witness testimony on record so know they know what to avoid or reword. They also know where they made errors and the weak points in their argument. This gives them an advantage. Add in additional accuser testimony and he is really behind the eight ball.

This was a purely he said she said case. Add in additional accusers and you have more she saids than his one said.

[Tidybuoy]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

OK-thanx
I guess I should have paid attn.
I just do not see how they proved this, being so so long a time ago.
"Guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt" always plays in my ears.
Perhaps because so many came fwd many? The many , Tilted the scales?

I think they proved this by bringing in 5 other women who said it happened to them. Which is why I think this case has a chance of reversal in appeal. None of the 5 other women had convictions against Cosby.

We the people can convict this guy in the press because if other women said it (especially 40+), it must be true. But, I'm not sure that that is how it works in court. I could be wrong.

[Tidybuoy]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Nah.

Wimmens can handle big wieners. In fact, I have heard stories where they like 'em.

Just ask around. I think EVERY woman would choose to be present rather than being drugged.

He got issues.

I'm stickin to my statement. I've always thought that in the case of groupies hanging around 7' black basket ball players....they go to their hotel, drink a bunch, get lots of gifts from the rich guy....but after saying yes and then experiencing a 15" schlong, they have second thoughts and suddenly it's rape. When in reality, it just hurt like shi$ and they can now sue for big $$$ and claim rape. Or, after it's over, the guy tells them to get the hell out, Biotch and suddenly the chick is pissed that she's not the new wifie and it's now rape.

[LesPaulFan]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

Point noted -
Alcohol is a drug too.
So .............
The next day she says i did not really mean yes...i am a victim.

You're absolutely correct on this. A drunk and horny woman can not consent to be willing to knock boots. I hope men are aware of this. The morning after you're a rapist.

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by LesPaulFan

You're absolutely correct on this. A drunk and horny woman can not consent to be willing to knock boots. I hope men are aware of this. The morning after you're a rapist.

Neither can a man. I ain't nothing special and this has happened more than once to me. But I ain't complaining. I have also been repeatedly harassed by homosexuals with some pretty vulgar words and cornered in a men's room where I had to fight my way out.

So lets not pretend it doesn't happen both ways on many levels.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by Ziggythecat

geez, if my memory is correct, all the cons came to his defense when he was first " outed" as a serial sexual abuser/ rapist.
Sammy, with his trove of cartoons, was among the loudest to condemn the women...all of them.

Called it a big money grab, by all those women...58 to be exact, even though the statute of limitations was long past.
They liked old Cos, the guy that lectured the black community on how they should behave.

Now, he's trashing the rapist.
About time, there, Spammy.
But I'll bet you were hoping he'd pull an OJ and walk away clean.

Your memory is not correct, because your head is full of dung where there should be brains.
You are a habitual liar and could not tell the truth to save your life.

Lets take a little trip down memory lane, shall we you pitiful excuse for a human being?

July 2015: The name of the thread is:

If Cosby were your family or friend, what would you say to him?

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Ewww, get away from me you sicko perv!
Or something to that effect.

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Don't forget, this perv criminal was given the presidential medal of freedom and the prez refuses to take it back.

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Q) What would they call Bill Cosby, recipient of the presidential medal of freedom (highest civlian honor in US), if he were white?

A) The worst, most evil human being in the history of the world.

November 2015: in response to you claiming the same BS lie:

Originally Posted by sammyg2

I remember I was driving home from Arizona when I heard the depth of cosby's crimes.

I remember being totally pissed off when the reporter asked [the president] if he would take away the "man of the year award" that [the previous president] gave cosby, and [the president] said no.
I remember yelling at the top of my lungs ... "YOU ****ING RACIST!"
I don't recall doing any defending.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-politics-religion/892280-hillary-death-spiral.html#post8889419

Here's one in green font:

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Evidently, it wasn't Bill Cosby's fault at all. He raped all those women just because he was a victim of racism!
Bill Cosby gives first interview in more than 2 years: 'I just hope I'm not in trouble now' | Fox News

So, you wanna tell us some more ziggy lies?

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy

but after saying yes and then experiencing a 15" schlong, they have second thoughts and suddenly it's rape.

The Koby chick comes to mind.

Not dissin' your thought. Just talking, bro.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy

I have no data to back up my comment but maybe he gave them drugs because he had a huge member and nothing would be happening without some form of relaxation and maybe the lady knew that. Of course it that was the case, I would think that would have come out in court. Jus sayin

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Nah.

Wimmens can handle big wieners. In fact, I have heard stories where they like 'em.

I guess this explains the hung jury in the first trial. Second trial, jury not so hung, he gets convicted.

[AFC-911]

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy

I'm stickin to my statement. I've always thought that in the case of groupies hanging around 7' black basket ball players....they go to their hotel, drink a bunch, get lots of gifts from the rich guy....but after saying yes and then experiencing a 15" schlong, they have second thoughts and suddenly it's rape. When in reality, it just hurt like shi$ and they can now sue for big $$$ and claim rape. Or, after it's over, the guy tells them to get the hell out, Biotch and suddenly the chick is pissed that she's not the new wifie and it's now rape.

People aren't allowed to change their minds?

You could be inside a girl and if she decides to say let's stop and you keep going, that becomes rape.