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I feel a great disturbance in the force.
As if millions of culinary/travel adventure shows cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

That just plain sucks.

Old 06-08-2018, 07:30 AM
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Wow! That's a shame, but then it's a shame any time anyone feels the need to do that. I did really like watching AB. He'd obviously had substance abuse issues over the years if not currently, so it's not really that big a surprise. Darn shame.
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Old 06-08-2018, 07:46 AM
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This is a gut punch. He was probably the only current tv personality I followed and cared about. I don't know what it takes to get to that point in depression, but I know people who do that can't be in their right mind when they do it. So sad for his daughter.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:13 AM
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His program was/is my favorite on TV. I can't say I'm surprised but I'm saddened and will miss his personality and the program a lot. He had such a soothing and comfortable voice when commenting about things. I agree with Richard (Motion) about his life running its course as he probably felt he was running out of stimulating things. After all he'd given up heroin, smoking, prostitutes, and reduced his drinking - according to him. I have a feeling he had always been searching for something he could never find.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:17 AM
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I watched his show now/then. I liked it.
What a shame.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:29 AM
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Rip. I’m glad he saw the world.

I think he was pretentious, but he did it well. It was almost raw. I liked him.
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Shocking but not surprising. Anthony had seen and done everything. His life had run its course. If you’re the type that is always looking for the next stimulant, and there is none to be found, a sense of hopelessness is inevitable.
There are those who constantly seek "the next stimulant"...the next fix.
Then when it comes time to just sit and be, issues can surface.
A Human Doing as opposed to a Human Being.
I saw this often while working in a Crisis Center as a co-director.
When an alcoholic stopped drinking, for example, they often became angry. Issues surfaced from which they sought to run/hide. I believe this is what the Taoist call "despair". A point (hitting bottom) from which one can develop authentically.
I had a g/f who was always on the run...she mocked me when I suggested meditation. She could not sit still.
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His program was/is my favorite on TV. I can't say I'm surprised but I'm saddened and will miss his personality and the program a lot. He had such a soothing and comfortable voice when commenting about things. I agree with Richard (Motion) about his life running its course as he probably felt he was running out of stimulating things. After all he'd given up heroin, smoking, prostitutes, and reduced his drinking - according to him. I have a feeling he had always been searching for something he could never find.
Well then what the fk is left?

And everyone has their demons son....
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There are those who constantly seek "the next stimulant"...the next fix.
Then when it comes time to just sit and be, issues can surface.
A Human Doing as opposed to a Human Being.
I saw this often while working in a Crisis Center as a co-director.
When an alcoholic stopped drinking, for example, they often became angry. Issues surfaced from which they sought to run/hide. I believe this is what the Taoist call "despair". A point (hitting bottom) from which one can develop authentically.
I had a g/f who was always on the run...she mocked me when I suggested meditation. She could not sit still.
Yep

Tiger has never hit bottom and Ted Turner can not sit still...so what did gaining the world do for them?
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Very surprised by this news.

My favourites included the Rome and Northern Italy shows along with the Lyon, France show.

He will be missed.
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Yep

Tiger has never hit bottom and Ted Turner can not sit still...so what did gaining the world do for them?
Yes. Gaining the world is so little to ask.
Dr. James Cavanaugh (Los Gatos Therapy Center, CA) wrote a book, The Magnificent Addiction wherein he wrote about how addicts, once on the road to recovery, had an opportunity to gain a stronger sense of self than many of those in the corporate world dedicating their lives to chasing after power, money, recognition, etc.
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As I posted in the other thread, have not seen any of his new stuff, I do not watch network TV.

I used to watch layover and reservations. Loved his show.

He turned mean and angered, I used to follow him on Twitter and IG and stopped he was very angry. When I read this news this morning, I was surprised initially, then as I thought about his last couple of years, not. He seemed to be struggling with emotions, did I expect him to take his life? No, surprised? A little, more surprised it was by hanging, I figured he would just do a kill shot of heroine if he was intent of leaving this rock.

I also am shocked he was only 61, I thought he was in his 70's.
I was also a big fan at first... but the last few years I stopped watching because he became cynical and angry.

Sad that he went out that way, I guess just more proof that fame and fortune does not bring happiness.
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Shocking but not surprising. Anthony had seen and done everything. His life had run its course. If you’re the type that is always looking for the next stimulant, and there is none to be found, a sense of hopelessness is inevitable.
That is a really interesting observation. There is always another high if you are willing to look, change perspective.

I have only seen his show in snippets so the response to his suicide is surprising to me: very heartfelt, simple eulogies to a flawed, talented man.

Suicide is a remarkably selfish act - I wish his young daughter strength.
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I respect AB for a number of reasons, but top of that list is that he deserves credit for making a whole bunch of Americans a little less afraid of the differences to be found in the rest of the world.
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That is a really interesting observation. There is always another high if you are willing to look, change perspective.

I have only seen his show in snippets so the response to his suicide is surprising to me: very heartfelt, simple eulogies to a flawed, talented man.

Suicide is a remarkably selfish act - I wish his young daughter strength.
Looking for something new seems artificial and disingenuous to me. At the age of 61, he had probably already addressed everything that was meant to be, at least for him.

I'm at the same point, so I sort of feel like I know him... I'm never going to go out and look for something new, to conjure something to have passion for. Its impossible. The things that construct me, I have already addressed. Life feels like a dead-end when you're at that point. I'm very happy, though, and will continue to focus on the few things that are important to me. If Tony was in a new relationship, I guess he didn't have a "rock" to hold onto.

So sad that his good friend, Eric, discovered him. But, Eric probably knew him as well as anyone could have.
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You know....it's entirely possible that he received news of a terminal illness....we don't know.

That would be one way to explain someone checking out - on their own terms.
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The only thing shocking to me is the number of people that still don’t understand suicide. This is the least surprising story in the newspaper today.
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Looking for something new seems artificial and disingenuous to me. At the age of 61, he had probably already addressed everything that was meant to be, at least for him.

I'm at the same point, so I sort of feel like I know him... I'm never going to go out and look for something new, to conjure something to have passion for. Its impossible. The things that construct me, I have already addressed. Life feels like a dead-end when you're at that point. I'm very happy, though, and will continue to focus on the few things that are important to me. If Tony was in a new relationship, I guess he didn't have a "rock" to hold onto.
Only he knows, and again, the solace his young child will need as she matures will be paramount.

I know him in reverse: I went everywhere and did everything when I was young: Sports, kayaking, surfing, rafting guide, Navy pilot; travel and adventure world wide with purpose and whimsy.

Married late, 36, and found the next groove, the passion. Now, at 61, kids grown and the best people I know, I find business and growing my company the next groove, the passion.

Happiness finds a home...your insights and honesty is remarkable.
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I watched a special on Larry Fitzgerald (AZ Cardinals) recently.
All about the places he's traveled and done. Remarkable, truly.
Then he spoke of there being so much more to see and do, etc. You could see the lust in his face.
I watched, listened...and thought...Hmm.
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You know....it's entirely possible that he received news of a terminal illness....we don't know.

That would be one way to explain someone checking out - on their own terms.
Definitely. I knew a man who did just that. To him, the choice was simple. Give all he'd worked for to the medical community and endure a lot of pain in exchange for a perhaps 1% chance of surviving, or leave a legacy for those he loved.

In a case like that, I would think anybody would consider checking out.

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