When outlaws are no longer outre, whats next?

[ChrisHoover]

Taking a marginal 911 with mismatched numbers and hot rodding it is an accepted thing for us. We all love stuffing big motors into old 911s, adding ITBs where none existed before, changing the fenders and bumpers, and redecorating the interiors. These cars are lovingly called outlaws. But what happens if we go farther? Will it be accepted? Will it be ridiculed? And by the way, how many kw can a 901 trans handle?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYrk5r4kiSM&pbjreload=10

[MStier]

I have severe misgivings about doing this type of conversion to a car like that 912 or the '66 Beetle, even if it's in a state of major disrepair as the 912 apparently was. That said, there's going to come a time when the gasoline we need to run our cars will become very expensive, and then it will be all but completely unavailable. While many of us will be dead by then, probably myself included, our cars, and their next owners, won't be. My younger son is 20, and he plans to take over my car when the time is right. So these EV conversions are going to become necessary, and the tech to do them is going to advance significantly from 2019 Tesla motor and any accompanying battery technology. I'm sure they'll be fun to drive, even if it's a different experience. And maybe folks will figure out how to build EVs that pretty much replicate the experience of driving the gas powered cars--who says EVs have to have max torque at 0 RPM?

[danco_]

but how else will I smell like gasoline and receive weekly noise complaints from my neighbors?

[Arne2]

My daily is a plug-in hybrid. 2/3 of my miles in that car ('16 Audi A3 etron) are full EV mode. Max torque at 0 RPM is actually rather cool. It's definitely something you can get used to!

That said, I don't ever plan to replace my MFI motor with EV. It wouldn't feel right at all.

[sugarwood]

This is the ULTIMATE in hot rodding.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

This is the ULTIMATE in hot rodding.

Although I wouldn't be interesting in doing a conversion like that, I've got to agree with Woody here - that mod is the equivalent of raising two tall middle fingers to the faces of all the purists, nostalgiaists, and naysayers out there (aka - more outlaw than outlaw).

[AG81]

My attitude has always been....."what ever works" I grew up having to do my own work and I am appreciative of that now. At a time when EV makes sense, it would be the next logical step. Not for me.....i'll be gone, but my spirit will live on in the 911 I built in my garage.

[cfassett]

Our 911s are apparently a good fit for the EV conversion. I wont be doing it, but some have.

My 69 Ford truck is in need of an engine, and EV has passed thru my mind. But where the engine is key to the vehicles desirability? At some point, it will be unacceptable to drive a gas powered vehicle, or maybe it wont. who knows. Either way, we may all be gone by then.

[rolfjahn]

I disagree with respect to everyone. Horses were the mode of transportation and hay is now expensive. Our Outlaw Porsches will always be relevant as fossil burning, noise making, unique aroma creators. My 25 year old daughter cant wait till she gets one of my 30 year old Pcars.

[tdw28210]

Well, out here in North Carolina we do the Tesla conversions to '74 RSR's.



This was at last month's Cars and Cappuccino event here in Charlotte. Personally I am conflicted. This thing will out-launch 90% of the high HP builds out there. But it was just eerie (not) hearing it roll by.

The body work is spot on (Backyard Legends) and the engineering ingenuity is truly impressive too. But man, I think I need sounds and smells. No just "launchability".

Might want to just gird yourself if you are hating this conversion. Rumor is there is a shop out here in NC that is gearing up to roll out a few more copies of these Tesla-powered 911's.

[GH85Carrera]

It will be a very long time before gasoline is gone. I will not live to see it.

Go on a road trip. Stop at a large Love's car and truck stop. You will see literally 100+ vehicles, all getting petroleum, food, and of course the pee stop. One week ago today I was in Key West. A 4,000 mile round trip. It would be simply impossible in an electric car.

No doubt, electric and hybrids will dominate the commuter traffic. But long haul and road trips will still need gasoline. And millions of people are on the road ever day driving coast to coast, border to border. Just go to the ocean to a local lake, and look at the boats. How long before electric boats take over? Yea, high voltage in a boat, no thanks.

Now go to your local civil airport or even the big international airport. When do you see electric airliners as practical? Ain't gonna happen with any technology even dreamed up yet. Same thing with civil or private airplanes.

Gasoline will be here a long time.

[Anglocanadian]

I believe the flat six sound and response is a large part of the true Porsche experience and heritage. If this is not important why spend huge amounts of money on rebuilding them when you can just slide in a GM V8 or Subaru ?
There are other alternative fluids and gases that the engine can be adapted to use.
As Andrew Frankel once stated in Motorsport Magazine " I have seen the future and battery's are not included"

[mgatepi]

NOPE, not going to happen, not here, no way, NOPE!
Old fart here.

[da Vinci Dan]

My opinion is outlaws are well into the passé phase and feel badly for those in the middle of builds. I’m totally over them and think the market for them is getting worse. Most of them look like someone just bolted on a bunch of aftermarket Chinese made crap... same stuff over and over again. But, to each their own. Personally I would like more of them to be kept as original as possible even if they are beat up. Some look like people spent a fortune trying for a Singer wannabe that never really worked. It’s your money.

That being said I hope for more rat rodish influences being established on older original examples.

[Locker537]

It can't be wrong if you're having fun.

[GG Allin]

Sleepers, that's what I'm putting together.

[ChrisHoover]

I love all of the comments in this thread. I am sympathetic to all. My hope is for my three car garage to change by replacing the BMW sedan with an electric conversion, keep and maintain the Cayman S, and continue to sort the 66 912/6. For me I’d have my bases covered, creature comforts and blazing speed in the Cayman, quiet, clean, and efficient in the EV, and raucous oil and gas fumed joy in the 1966

[RarlyL8]

They need to do this with boring cars that transport from point A to point B. It has no place in a sports car who's very soul is the experience of the sound and feel running through the gears. I don't see the point in any way shape or form. If they think max torque at 0rpm is all that matters they sorely missed the point of a sports car. Those cars are soul-less and no longer Porsches.

[AG81]

Originally Posted by RarlyL8

It has no place in a sports car who's very soul is the experience of the sound and feel running through the gears.

^
This is a big reason I own an aircooled 911. Can't wait for my 2 in 2 out to arrive.

[jac1976]

Originally Posted by RarlyL8

They need to do this with boring cars that transport from point A to point B. It has no place in a sports car who's very soul is the experience of the sound and feel running through the gears. I don't see the point in any way shape or form. If they think max torque at 0rpm is all that matters they sorely missed the point of a sports car. Those cars are soul-less and no longer Porsches.

And here I was waiting for M&K to be the first out of the gates for aftermarket Taycan exhaust. Wait a minute...