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Thumbs up st rear flares

hi, i seem to remember a post somewhere that stated you can use steel turbo front flares on the rear to simulate the st 9" flares. i did a search but came up dry. anyone try this? any photos?
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I test fitted a turbo front flare on the back just recently
It fits amazingly good. You'd need to make hole for the t-bar though
You can see some pics here:
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It's as wide as a SC/Carrera flare, but the profile is more pronounced
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Do they give more room for wider wheels / tires?
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Here is another direction.

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I have asked this question before, and sorry to hijack, but does anyone have pics of a car with just the rear st flares attached with stock fronts? Turbo flares would be to much, and rs flares have been done so much that I'm thinking that just having rear st flares might not look way out of proportion????
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This car has been beautifully done IMO. These were hand crafted in the UK by the people that built the body. This car belongs to Chris Harris.

It's interesting how the rears on this car look very similar to 930 front flares.

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You can just use SC flares to get 8" tires if you want - that's the way my '74 is set up. I like the original/stock look of the narrow body cars, but like most I prefer to be able to run 16" wheels with wider tires. My measurements indicate that I should be able to get 9" rears and 8" fronts with this setup but haven't actually done it yet to see if reality matches theory.
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IMHO you need to work on turbo flares to get them to look historically correct. Otherwise, you have a early car with turbo flares

Gib has done a great job of having his turbo flares rounded out to a more ST shoulder or shape. I can't wait to see them painted.

My rear ST flares were based off the German ST flares from TRE- I just had mine made custom out of equivalent guage steel as the Porsche chassis. I used the TRE flares as a template. I chose not to put the TRE flares on my car because of the thinness of the metal. It did not match the thickness of what was being removed. I did not want to repair paint from possible rock dings/chips from racing.
I do have to say the shape, and condition of the TRE flares were really good and should be OK for a street car.
The fronts are fiberglass RSR from Getty (the best fiberglass I have fitted over the years)

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Your car came out awesome , Chad ! Very nice- it really has the euro attitude.

an option is to take front 9" turbo flares , put them on the back . Take care of the torsion bar holes- already stated above

For the front, to retain proportionality, install the rear flares from a SC/Carrera. BUT to get more of a matched look, metal work will have to be performed on the back outer lips , as they have a flat vertical face. The SC/Carrera has a small outer face

If the flat vertical face is acceptable to you, consider then narrowing a pair of front turbo flares and narrowing them an inch, up front. I did this back in '86 on my targa running 8/9 x 15's. The flares have the same radius front and rear, same outer face, and there is the proportionality that most of us are looking for.
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Subscribe with great interest, maybe I can convert mine from a Iroc to a ST with this method.
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Your car came out awesome , Chad ! Very nice- it really has the euro attitude.
Thanks Dave. I'm looking at a SC for a possible backdate to an ST for the street. I may be ordering a full set of those ST flares if I can get a good deal on the SC.
Thanks again.
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We will be ready- we certainly are not happy with the mfg price increase on the flares, but at least they are available quickly.

Point of detail on Chad's blue racer. The Getty front fenders are indeed one of the best pieces around, but they are based on 73 fenders with a turbo 930 flare profile. You can see the flat face I have been describing in my prior post. His rear flares are spot on with the ST profile and detail.

Another observation- installing front turbo flares, all the way around, on a car without trimming down the width of the fronts will give the car a front heavy look. Dimensionally you may have it symmetrical , but visually the rear flares will look "smaller" than the rear. Hence my recommendation of narrowing the front 930 flares slightly to retain proportionality
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Hey Dave,

Whats the visual difference between a late and early 930 flare? (If any)
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The later 930 flare has a large cut out for the torsion bar- this was on the G50 1989 models. The opening is a semi circular cut that is covered by a separate panel. For the most part, you don't see this on a stock late 930 as it is covered by the outer rocker panel and the shark fin protector sticker.

When installing these on an earlier project ("RSR" etc), you end up leaving this semi circle exposed; it just does not look right to my period correct eyesight

Other than that , the flare dimensions, shape are identical from 1975 thru 1989.

The 965 turbo flares have an even larger cut out for its suspension set up- basically unusable for the amount of work it would take to complete the flare
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Can anyone photshop this pic without the front flares?
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