I am going to be eaten alive in this forum...

[chrismorse]

Just tweezing you. Good advice onthe battery, fuel system and preflight checks.

good luck,
chris

[tweezers74]

Originally Posted by Joe Bob

OK, since I'm a pig, I'll be the first to ask....are you a Hottie?

Thanks, Gary for the back up but I think Joe Bob's ballsy and direct question deserves an equally direct and ballsy answer. Yes, Joe Bob, I am a total hottie. And since we are on the internet, you will never know if I am telling the truth or if I am a snaggle toothed troll. And if I was a snaggle toothed troll, would I tell you I was a snaggle toothed troll? I wouldn't want to scare away any help I want. And if I was a hottie, I would want people to take me seriously on this forum, so would I tell you if I was a hottie?. So, to answer your question in a politically correct way, I am a total hottie snaggle toothed troll.

On the other hand, if I get your help as well as the other wonderful people on this forum, I will be sure to post a picture of me with my Porsche during all stages. I have been known to jump on hoods of nice looking cars and snap pictures. I am sassy like that.

Now that the silly stuff has been addressed, let's get to the good stuff... Nope, this isn't a hoax. I went and took pictures of the car today. Gentlemen and ladies, I think it is in bad shape. Worse than I thought it would be. Makes me so sad. And I would just like to elicit some sympathy since I was outside when it was 105 degrees outside. It took me awhile to even get the key to work on the door and get the door open. Unfortunately, I couldn't get the engine lid open. I tried for half an hour. Don't know why it is sticking. Maybe I just need to work on it more like I did with the door. I know... disappointing that I don't have pictures of the engine. I will try again tomorrow. But here are the pics that I did get so that you guys will stop giving me grief. I really do need to get it to my garage. Got the manuals and will start reading, studying, breathing the 911T Targa. Then maybe I will become a little nutsy like the rest of you. I say that lovingly...

[tweezers74]

[ajwans]

That's actually a 72T, note the oil filler door on the right rear fender.

andy

[tweezers74]

You are right, Andy. I asked my dad and he told me that it was a 73. Wonder if he knows that. I actually read about that change in the 72' model and how they changed it only a year later. Ha! Have to tell my dad he doesn't know his car as much as I do. Think I am going to rely on my own investigations from now on! With the help of all the professionals here!

[G50-Love]

body looks in good shape - but you need to remove the headlights and look in there

look in front trunk all around fuel tank & where battery sits; underneath in that area

look behind rear wheels

interior shots don't show all but looks ok

you should expect the targa top to look like that (these cars look ugly with the targa top on anyway), so always drive with it off...

you can use a random orbit buffer and some stuff from Meguairs (call them and ask which one -- it is safe for amateurs) to restore that paint to look very nice

you will feel happier as the car looks nicer - post some of the ugliest photos on the wall so you can look at them and compare to give you renewed strength when you need that

you can bump the engine lid maybe and get it open - be careful with it

enjoy your adventure -- I hope you are a young hottie troll (old ones may pass away before finishing the car)

[dhagood]

man, i'd love to have a 72 911 of any flavor. most people on this board would love to have a 72...

congrats tweez. she's a little rough, and there is more than likely some rust that's going to have to be dealt with, but you have the makings of a real sweetheart.

the targa top is no big deal, that's easy to have fixed. the paint is very tired, but you can probably get it to shine up pretty well. the big thing is rust and the mechanicals.

i understand that this car has sentimental value for you. that's fine, but be advised that a 72 911 is salable, even in that shape, for more money than my 84 carrera is worth. how cool it will be if you can get it going, mostly through your own efforts.

[tweezers74]

What is your definition of young? I think I am a "young" hottie troll. 37 years young... although people guess late 20s/early 30s. It is all this crazy stuff that keeps me young! So, by my calculations, I have plenty of time to look like a hottie troll in my restored Porsche, WITH the targa top off. Here is the other picture I took of the interior. The back doesn't look half bad. The front seats had lambskin covers so they were actually falling apart but they protected the leather seats underneath. But then when I got in the car, the seats felt "crunchy" and didn't feel so good. Wish I had pictures of the engine. Hopefully I can get the engine lid open tomorrow. Hotter tomorrow... 106 degrees.

[Bobboloo]

Originally Posted by tweezers74

You are right, Andy. I asked my dad and he told me that it was a 73. Wonder if he knows that. I actually read about that change in the 72' model and how they changed it only a year later. Ha! Have to tell my dad he doesn't know his car as much as I do. Think I am going to rely on my own investigations from now on! With the help of all the professionals here!

I'm a little late to the party but welcome to the forum!

The oil door was a 72' "only" feature but that doesn't mean that your car is definitely and could only be a 72'. We have seen strange things when it comes to these old Porsche's. Porsche at times tended to use parts from the previous year that weren't always used up. The VIN will definitely tell us what year the car is. If your VIN is a number like 911211xxxx then it is a 72'T Targa. If the VIN is a number like 911311xxxx then it is a 73'T Targa. Your rear bumperettes for instance are a 73' "only" feature but they could have been a replacement part so only the VIN will tell us for sure. It would be really cool if your car ends up being a 73' with a 72' style oil door.

I own a 73'T Targa from New Mexico that I completely restored. So feel free to ask me any questions via email or the boards private mail system.

I started on this board 11 years ago with very little knowledge on these old cars, only the knowledge I had gleaned from the books that were out at that time. What started out as a hobby is now my day job. i.e. I restore these cars for a living.

Your car doesn't look that bad to me. The paint looks amazingly well and can probably be saved. I would strongly suggest that you consider keeping the original paint if at all possible. It's called Viper Green by the way. I like it!

Your cars' vinyl suffered the same fate as my car. The southwest is perfect for preserving chassis (i.e. no rust) but is brutal on vinyl. Good news is that vinyl is relatively cheap. I'll take a desert car any day over one from a humid climate.

I noticed that you have an "S tachometer" with a 7300 RPM redline. You should ask your dad if he had the motor rebuilt and to what spec. If it's rebuilt as an S then the value of the car will be increased accordingly as the motor will have 190HP as opposed to 140HP for the stock "T" model.

By the way, you are a hottie. We can see that in the picture of the Targa top.

I guess since you showed me yours I'll should show you mine. Whoa, whoa, I'm not some kind of perverted congressman. I'm talking bout the cars....



I think you've got a much better starting point than I had. Take your time and enjoy the process. No doubt you'll get it right!

P.S. I like Green Targas!


robertginsburg@sbcglobal.net

[village idiot]

Looks well worth saving. Too bad I don't still live in Az. I would be more than happy to help in exchange for some good home made mexican food
I do hope you proceed as the end results will be a interesting and iconic vehicle and a lot of new found skills. Who knows, you may make a couple great friendships in the process.

Good luck, and have fun!

[snbush67]

Aloha,

Car looks great, 72 was a great year and Targas are wonderful. More pics of the windows would be nice.

Shane

[rnln]

guys guys.. hold on a second. Remember, I was the first one asked for pics, alright?

Tweez, look like a long shot for you, very long. The first and the only classic I ever restored was a first generation Z. It was in similar shape as yours, a little worse. At the end, I was very happy.

When I first got my 911, I was so excited to "work" on it after all oil/fluid replaced. When I shut the engine lid too hard, it's stuck. I could not get it up after trying many diff ways. For a second of frustration, I asked my wife to pulled and held the handle. I then hugged the whole tea tray tail and yanked it side to side. I was surprise that it worked.
After the tail was up, I carefully inspected the lock mechanism and saw that it's very easy to get stuck if it's misaligned just a little.
I am not telling you to hug your lid and dance, but maybe ask someone to pull and hold the handle while you are moving it side to side, or front to back. Good luck.

[TR]

901 box in a 72 2.4 is that right?

Colour is good though, I'm sure Village idiot will agree.

[Joe Bob]

A mistake in registration has never happened? My 58A was papered as a 59 in New Jersey. I had to get a COA to convince CA DMV to fix it......



BTW, nice reflection......

[NOLAsc]

Love the color.
It's gonna be a great project.

Rnin's method for opening the engine lid should work if the cable pulls and feels springy (read: is attached and working). Mine sticks randomly, and when it does, it's inevitably when no one is there to help. Here's what I do: I pull the cable; wedge a piece of wood (maybe a half inch thick?) under the cable handle to keep it open, and jostle the lid. I hope it works for you.

PS, I'm glad this was not a hoax. I'm really looking forward to following your journey.

[fred cook]

The Pelican parts BB! As others have mentioned, you will find endless help and encouragement here. You appear to be on the right track, learning and reading as much as possible before ripping stuff apart! Speaking of working on the car, you might want to set off a "bug bomb" inside the car to kill any spiders or other bitey critters that may have taken up residence. Just a precaution.

I noticed that the dash is cracked. You will have to remove the windshield in order to be able to change the dash cover. While the windshield is out, it will give you a chance to check for rust under the windshield seal. Also check under the batteries and around the pan to which the front suspension bolts.

When you get around to refurbishing the interior, be certain to check out the classifieds here on PP. You will likely find most of what you will need at bargain prices.

Again, welcome and good luck with your project!

[Doug&Julie]

Originally Posted by NOLAsc

PS, I'm glad this was not a hoax. I'm really looking forward to following your journey.

+1. And a '72! Hope you can "save" it...they're rare birds! Good luck!

[GaryR]

Originally Posted by Joe Bob

BTW, nice reflection......

I was waiting for someone to notice that, figures it would be you Joe B.!

[1911Guy]

I first learned to drive a manual transmission with my Dad's Silver 1972 Targa when I was a young buck.
Looks like a fun project.
Good Luck!

[Bob Kontak]

Joe Bob for President.

Curves aside, give me eight hours on that paint and the 1972 Mr Grinch would be the hottie.