LED Brake Lights

[Canada Kev]

Cool. Thanks.

But they do have a light on the side near the front of the lens that's not signal related, yes?

[Canada Kev]

Originally Posted by Taxi!

My rear sidemarker lights look to have been ahem, "modified" by the PO (along with too many other things to mention.) Does anyone have a photo of a stock rear sidemarker bulb and receptacle (minus the tailight lens, of course) they could share so I'll know what mine's supposed to look like, as I'm not sure Spoke's LED board will fit. Thanks in advance.

Jeff

Is this possibly a Euro car? The reflector is white plastic looking just like mine but with an additional bulb near the front of the reflector in the big round hole.

[spoke]

Originally Posted by Canada Kev

Now on the rear signals, are the US cars equipped with two filament bulbs like the fronts? That would mean that the rear signal lights are likely illuminated whenever the running lights are on and flash brighter, just like the fronts.

As Arne mentions, all 911 rear turnsignals are single filament. In my quest to light up the rear turnsignals to double as running lights, I had to steal power from the rear sidemarker. This is the only reason I made the sidemarker board in the first place.

Now this is only legal with RED rear turnsignal lenses as amber running lights are only allowed on the front of the car.

What I do to light up the red rear turnsignals as running lights is tether the sidemarker board to the turnsignal board as shown below. The wire between the boards is running light power from the sidemarker board.

Your light housing with the sidemarker reflector gone would still work with my sidemarker PCB as the PCB doesn't use or touch the reflector at all. You would just need to re-position the socket to point to the side of the car.

[Canada Kev]

That's a good idea to get the red signals lit up with the running lights for better conspicuity.

However, as mine is a RoW car, it doesn't have the side marker or a plug to use one. The picture above of the red car with white reflector isn't mine. Mine just has a hole where the marker is (on US cars) and a reflector covering it under the lens. I just was asking the poster if his was a Euro as it has the same white plastic reflectors as mine but with a butchered, probably due to federalization in the 80s, marker bulb.

[Taxi!]

Originally Posted by Canada Kev

That's a good idea to get the red signals lit up with the running lights for better conspicuity.

However, as mine is a RoW car, it doesn't have the side marker or a plug to use one. The picture above of the red car with white reflector isn't mine. Mine just has a hole where the marker is (on US cars) and a reflector covering it under the lens. I just was asking the poster if his was a Euro as it has the same white plastic reflectors as mine but with a butchered, probably due to federalization in the 80s, marker bulb.

Kevin, yes mine is a ROW, or Euro, model. The owner's manual pouch was from a dealership in Puerto Rico, and the small bulb side marker lights certainly look to have been added. I bought Spoke's round LED marker light boards, but didn't end up using them. That doesn't mean they couldn't be made to work, but part of my decision was due to the fact that I went with clear taillight lenses and the part of the taillight where the markers are situated is transparent, so the boards would have been completely visible. Again, I probably could have come up with a solution if I wanted to spend more time but I usually tend to gravitate to the easiest option, which was to just forego the marker lights. Regardless, I'm a big fan of Spoke and his ingenuity and have his rear brake and turn signal LED boards.

[Tony V]

My brake and back-up LEDs arrived today. Beautiful work! Felt like I was putting jewelry on the car.
Easy installation and very well made.
Thanks for making my ass end brighter (the car's, not mine!)

[Alexm930]

Originally Posted by Taxi!

Kevin, yes mine is a ROW, or Euro, model. The owner's manual pouch was from a dealership in Puerto Rico, and the small bulb side marker lights certainly look to have been added. I bought Spoke's round LED marker light boards, but didn't end up using them. That doesn't mean they couldn't be made to work, but part of my decision was due to the fact that I went with clear taillight lenses and the part of the taillight where the markers are situated is transparent, so the boards would have been completely visible. Again, I probably could have come up with a solution if I wanted to spend more time but I usually tend to gravitate to the easiest option, which was to just forego the marker lights. Regardless, I'm a big fan of Spoke and his ingenuity and have his rear brake and turn signal LED boards.

Yes you have a RoW car. Mine was the same. Did not need the round LED.

[Otter74]

spoke, I wrote you the other day about placing an order, at the email you gave me last year in a PM. Did this make it to you?

[spoke]

Originally Posted by Otter74

spoke, I wrote you the other day about placing an order, at the email you gave me last year in a PM. Did this make it to you?

I've been looking for an email exchange I just had with someone about 911 front turnsignals and I can't seem to find it. Please try to email me again. PM sent with email info.

Also if you go to my website to CONTACT US, this will point to my email.

[Arne2]

Originally Posted by spoke

I just added 4 sets of round brake boards with GREEN color to the discount corner on my website.

The color of these boards will not come through the red brake lens so no issue with the green boards.

These are on 50% discount. Excellent deal for $45/pair.

Wow, I wish I needed another set at that price. Great deal!

FWIW, I already have the round lights on green boards, and they are great. As noted, the green doesn't show, and the round lights have the LEDs packed so tightly together that they don't look light individual LEDs when lit. Now if only there was a turn signal board that had the LEDs mounted that densely.

[spoke]

I just added 4 sets of round brake boards with GREEN color to the discount corner on my website.

The color of these boards will not come through the red brake lens so no issue with the green boards.

These are on 50% discount. Excellent deal for $45/pair.

[tobyp]

Spent about an hour last night installing my new LED headlights and tail/brake and reverse lights on my Targa. What a difference! I still need to properly adjust the headlights and install the rear turn/sidemarkers as well as the front turn signals, but essentially when done, 95% of the exterior lighting on the car will be LED-based (just waiting on front side markers from SpokeWorks LED).

I purchased several kits from SpokeWorksLED. Jerry is GREAT to work with, and he has done a very nice job of engineering and manufacturing a well-thought-out and easy-to-install solution. He has even worked out the electrical differences for those of us with Cruise Control so that you can have an all-LED lighting system out back of our cars. So far, I have the brake/tail and reverse lights installed. Makes a HUGE difference in being able to be seen on the road at night over the stock Porsche lighting setup. Planning to install the rear turn/sidemarker lights, front turn signals and the proper turn-signal flasher relay (to avoid the fast blink caused by the installation of the lower-draw LEDs) hopefully tonight. Will only have the front side marker lights and fog lamps to convert after that.

All in, it is NOT cheap to do this. But, even at the cost for all of the kits, having my 911 more visible to all the idiot drivers running up and down the 101 in the Bay Area is well worth it!

I can't say enough about Jerry and his products. Very nice person, smart and very easy to work with.

If you are looking to upgrade the exterior lighting of your 911, I highly recommend Jerry and his firm. Great products that work great!!

No affiliation with SpokeWorksLED. I am just a very satisfied customer.

Pictures to come tonight.

Toby

[bugstrider]

-Toby

What headlights did you end up going with? I too ordered the "Works" from SpokeworksLED, full 360 LED's. Although I still haven't decided what headlight configuration I want, keep the Sugar scoops or change out, blah,blah, blah..... you know, the age ol dilemma. Spendy but well worth the upgrades. Oh, I also want to upgrade to the blades fuse board too, but in time.


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[JohnJL]

Spoke and others;

I finally got all most the electronics sorted, the turn signal, running lights, brake and reverse lights are great! They are easy to install, look great, are very bright and light instantaneously. Great work!

In my case I am wiring the car completely from scratch and found some unexpected results along the way. In particular when troubleshooting the hazards I ran into an issue which leads me to needing confirmation of what turn signal LEDs will work...

I simplified my hazard wiring by using the stock hazard switch with a +12v input on a pin, and one each going out to the left- and right-turn turn signal connections. In the past I have had to wire in a diode in a fuse holder on each leg to keep the turn signal switch from feeding power back to both sides, but in this case it worked no problem.

...except I found that when the hazard switch is on, the indicator bulb inside the hazard switch drew enough to keep the hazard circuit from functioning properly. THe fronts would dimly flash but nothing from the rears. I found when I removed the bulb and shorted out the contacts inside the hazard circuit functioned perfectly. My fix was to solder a short circuit of solder across the bulb base and its ground. Now the hazaxrds work perfectly, thought th bulb in the hazard switch no longer flashes. THats OK with me as long a the turn signals flash properly when the hazards are on.

Which brings me to my question: The turn signals currently work fine, thought the indicator bulbs in the Tach do not light. The turn signal indicator lights are wired in parallel to the turn signals themselves. You can see that in the wiring diagram in the middle/bottom here:



My questions are whether, when wiring Spoke's turn signals, how are people getting their turn signal indicators working? Mine with the stock incandescent bulbs are not working, is this normal and if so, can/which LEDs are available to replace the turn indicators in the Tach? Can they be wired in parallel as in my diagram?


Thanks!

[spoke]

Interesting issues you have. I think there are a few things happening here.

Hazard bulb shorting: Not sure what's going on. To help here I'd have to have the equivalent circuit of the flasher to understand the interaction with the bulb. Do you have the part number for the flasher?

Tach Turn Indicators: In your circuit, they look correct. You may need to check the wiring to the indicators.

Hazard wiring: pins 17 and 18(or 10) look to be shorted.

[JohnJL]

Hi, no problem with shortz...I intentionally shorted the hazard bulb, it resulted in the hazards behaving correctly.

My question is specifically on the turn signal indicator circuits...should it matter if those indicator bulbs are led or incandescent or something special?

[betterair]

Are the round/green discount brake lights still avail?
I will take a pr , thanks.

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by betterair

Are the round/green discount brake lights still avail?
I will take a pr , thanks.

Spoke,

Me too .. if available. PM me or reply here. Thanks!

[spoke]

Sorry guys, the green brake boards are sold.

[bugstrider]

Woot! Woot!

Christmas came early!!!!!!





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