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I was looking over these posts again and this one is so well said.



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2?^^^. Lol. I think I may have btdt !!! Still working well? I am back to 1 due to space etc. it is the only correct check/repair for any unibody. It either fits or not. The cars were built on jigs, good enough is not. The machine part is a misnomer. You still need to know how and where to pull the energy without ripping the chassis apart. The jigs locate and maintain position, allowing the ART of the repair. My first 911, back in 80, a 65 crashed, came with manuals. I saw that bench and knew that's the right way. Been doing it that way ever since. Had 3 benches up and jigged at one point! Only way to do it right. I actually missed CELETTE sponsorship racing years ago. I put the bug in the ear, couple years later they sponsored something. Better than wurth and nascar. So much happier with the cayman pull system than the cobra double clamp hydraulics.

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Old 09-22-2025, 05:34 PM
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Interesting, is there any option other then Celette , spending 9k to just check two cars sound stupid. In Europe renting jig apparently cost 3k for 4 weeks.

I can see that Wilhelm started building own jig but he is not on forum anymore. Anyone else had success with making their own jig.

Have 912 and Carrera 75 to check and help with replacing the tube which i believe without a jig is rather nightmare.

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Interesting, is there any option other then Celette , spending 9k to just check two cars sound stupid. In Europe renting jig apparently cost 3k for 4 weeks.

I can see that Wilhelm started building own jig but he is not on forum anymore. Anyone else had success with making their own jig.

Have 912 and Carrera 75 to check and help with replacing the tube which i believe without a jig is rather nightmare.

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Lots of careful measuring with a tram gauge and a laser level. And making your own jigs for repairs.
Sort of depends what the 9k includes but it’s only stupid if you can do the same job with the same effort for less money. The cellette owner has put out the money to buy and store the benches and fixtures and time to learn how to use them. Then someone has to remove the suspension from the car, build up the fixtures on the bench and place the car. The cellette does let you know pretty quickly if your car is straight and if it’s not, give you a mechanism for getting it fixed.
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Lots of careful measuring with a tram gauge and a laser level. And making your own jigs for repairs.

Sort of depends what the 9k includes but it’s only stupid if you can do the same job with the same effort for less money. The cellette owner has put out the money to buy and store the benches and fixtures and time to learn how to use them. Then someone has to remove the suspension from the car, build up the fixtures on the bench and place the car. The cellette does let you know pretty quickly if your car is straight and if it’s not, give you a mechanism for getting it fixed.
Yes , to the point where Celette makes for sure the whole process ieasier. You can fit not one but diff cars and easily fix , straight all.

But nobody who is just repairing a car for its own benefit will but Celette, renting of course is an option but if i can own jig for this same price as i would pay for renting why not build one. In future if i decide to get another car at least i have the option to check it at no cost really.

If i would be a garage who restores Porsche for sure i would get one.


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Yes , to the point where Celette makes for sure the whole process ieasier. You can fit not one but diff cars and easily fix , straight all.

But nobody who is just repairing a car for its own benefit will but Celette, renting of course is an option but if i can own jig for this same price as i would pay for renting why not build one. In future if i decide to get another car at least i have the option to check it at no cost really.

If i would be a garage who restores Porsche for sure i would get one.


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Yes. We repair Porsches and have two cellette benches with fixtures.
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Yes , to the point where Celette makes for sure the whole process ieasier. You can fit not one but diff cars and easily fix , straight all.

But nobody who is just repairing a car for its own benefit will but Celette, renting of course is an option but if i can own jig for this same price as i would pay for renting why not build one. In future if i decide to get another car at least i have the option to check it at no cost really.

If i would be a garage who restores Porsche for sure i would get one.


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Where in Poland and how far away are you from Vienna? I have a Celette MUF7 and a set of the original Porsche 911 fixtures, the ones that bolt directly to the bench without the MZ towers.

You can find the benches in Europe regularly, they are not even that expensive. The problem are the fixtures, as they almost never come up for sale. In about 10 years of looking all over constantly I have only found one set. Restoration Design sells a set of copies for about €7000, that works with the MZ towers.

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Where in Poland and how far away are you from Vienna? I have a Celette MUF7 and a set of the original Porsche 911 fixtures, the ones that bolt directly to the bench without the MZ towers.



You can find the benches in Europe regularly, they are not even that expensive. The problem are the fixtures, as they almost never come up for sale. In about 10 years of looking all over constantly I have only found one set. Restoration Design sells a set of copies for about €7000, that works with the MZ towers.



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Thanks Lukas ,

Celette jig are indeed not so expensive and i can buy MU5 for 300 euro , MU7 less then grand , only issue is with MZ towers as i did not see a single sold in the last 7 months locally.

Hence the reason behind trying to build jig which i can use to check if all is square and when i will be replacing the tube and possible front pan.

Not mine pictures but i can sew that people are having a way to eiasly check car without need for Celette jig with Mz Towers.

I have around 550km to Vienna.

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