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Baza · Baza's Garage

Why do 911 owners think that the 944 is not a real Porsche?
Is it because they go around corners better?
Is it because they were to supercede the 911?
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Just because?

I was just wondering and thought someone may have the answer, I went to a rally the other day and well you know what happened.

85944na · 85944na's Garage

it's because 944s don't leak enough oil.

DangerIsland · 03-07-2003, 02:04 PM

Why...

...Do 944 owners think 911s don't go around corners so well...
...Do 944 owners think their cars were designed to supercede the 911... (that was the 928 actually)
...care about what the 911 owners think

the 911 has more history, mystique, style, flair, etc. behind it. That's the main reason.

Roastin944 · 03-07-2003, 02:05 PM

Because 911 owners are stuck on only the expensive porsches and believe if your not a rich dick head and cant afford a 911 then getting a 944 doesnt mean you own a real porsche. I hate rich people stuck on themselves.......

scottmandue · 04:18 PM

No, no, no...

It's cause 911 owner's have little pee pee's

Blackfoot · Blackfoot's Garage

dollar for dollar, or even 3 for 1, 911's just don't deliver the performance value of a 944, especially a 951. so discerning 911 owners have to make themselves feel good somehow. after all, they spent all that money. bashing is the easiest (though i don't believe it really makes them feel better in the long term). they should just say they like their 911 and let it go at that.

Roastin944 · 03-07-2003, 02:21 PM

HAHAHA, thats great scott

Z-man · Z-man's Garage

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Originally posted by Porsche_postie
Why do 911 owners think that the 944 is not a real Porsche?
Is it because they go around corners better?

Well, actually, compared to the 944, the 996 handles just about as good. But the 911 owners probably don't think the 996 is a real Porsche either!

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Is it because they were to supercede the 911?

Actually, I believe you're thinking about the 928: Porsche was planning on sunsetting the 911 and giving the 928 the task of bringing Porsche into the new millenium. Obviously, that didn't go as planned.

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or Just because?
I was just wondering and thought someone may have the answer, I went to a rally the other day and well you know what happened.

I have many friends in the Porsche community that are 911 owners. For the most part, we get along ok. We poke fun of each other, but it's all done in good taste. Honestly, I've only met 1 guy in my PCA region (NNJR) who had a true distaste for 944s: we were flagging together at Lime Rock during a DE event, and all he did was bash the 944. The funny thing was: his car didn't last the first day of the event (blown motor), while my car was doing just fine.

Maybe that's why he was pissed.

So I guess if you have the proper attitude, and other Porsche owners have the proper attitude, we can all get along!

-Z-man.

PS: I never PASSED a 911 on the track I didn't like!

scottmandue · 03-07-2003, 02:55 PM

FWIW - I like 911's. 912's, 914's, 356's I was just blowing smoke...

I have come a long way, twenty years ago I was a hard core Chevy/GM guy, I HATED Porsche because they were kicking butt on the track all over my beloved Corvettes etc.

Then one day I read about these new Porsches with the 50/50 balance... I am drooling then I look at the price $35-40K...
HA HA HA HA! Like I will ever spend that kind of money on a car!

Funny how time changes things...

ilikemy944 · 03-07-2003, 03:41 PM

I was thinking about that today... When I was 15, I knew I wanted a 944. I got a ride with a neighbor in a 930 (very very sweet badass fast car hehe). During the ride I told him I was thinking about finding myself a 944, his response "Get a real Porsche." That ticked me off even though it would be a few years before I'd even think hard about getting one, just because, it is a Porsche, it has Porsche written all over it, and Porsche built it. What makes it not a real Porsche?

Maybe they are upset that we can find a pristine, showroom condition 944 for around 5k??

interglossa · 04:20 PM

Why 911 owners scowl at 944's is beyond me...
Honestly if you say 911's are better or 944's are better it's all a matter of opinion. However there are facts out there that make one better than the other etc.

But let's cut back to the early 80's...

Oh the 944 yanked Porsche screaming out of the toilet and if it weren't for the "not a real porsche", the new 911's may never have been. Period.

Inspector 7 · 03-07-2003, 04:20 PM

I know one old guy with a very nice, owned since new, 356 that still hasn't forgiven Porsche for abandoning the true Porsche design.

I used to own a '66 911. It was one of the most fun cars that I have ever owned. It wasn't really fast (my minivan beat it in a drag race once) and it cornered fairly well after I was done with it but a friend in the local PCA really wanted it and made an offer that I simply couldn't refuse.

Steve Frew

gearhead290 · 03-07-2003, 04:53 PM

bleh, front engined RWD is the only way to go for me. I don't really care what they think.

highboost951 · 03-07-2003, 06:25 PM

It's the same reason why the 914 is the ba$tard son of Porsche as the 924/944 is the red headed step child, they were designed by Porsche to become VW's but volkswagen didn't like them so Porsche went ahead and built them. Ever notice how many parts on the 914/924/944 were VW/Audi parts? Obviously things changed a bit in late 85 though or like the crazy old fart said it could just be that the 911 guys have short pee pees

SidVicious · 03-07-2003, 07:12 PM

Just last summer Excellence magazine had an article on Derek Bell. Sorry I can't find the issue to tell you the exact issue number. Anyway, he owns a rare version of a 924 Turbo, and proclaimed he'd never owned a 911. He prefers the layout of the 924/944 series. I figure if it's good enough for him, I'm in good company.

If you haven't heard of Derek Bell, um, he was a really good driver.

924S-fast · 03-07-2003, 08:14 PM

lol, no doubt! I am just getting to know the performance/fun of owning a 924S (am 16) and I love it. as far as dragging on a track, I dont think it would be the absolute best, but if you were to go on a course. Tha 944 would be doing very good.
Do you think that a 944 (on a straight track 2 mi. long) could take a 1963 Pontiac Catalina with a tripple deuce? There is this old mechanic guy that is always talking up his ride. I dont want to knock him because I honestly dont know. What can this car take?

AaronM · 03-07-2003, 09:51 PM

What I want to know is why 924/944 people seem to think that 911 people are scoffing at them.

It's like the popular myth that Harley riders scoff at Japanese bikes. I've been riding an '82 Honda Nighthawk 450 since I was 16 (almost 5 years) and I have never once met a Harley owner who talked down about me or my bike. Heck, most of the people I ride with are on Harleys. They're just happy that there's another person out there riding who's not a squid.

I think that what a lot of 911 owners dislike is the "punk kid who thinks he's cool because of his Porsche" attitude that a very small minority of 924/944 owners have.

Honestly, I'd bet there there are a _lot_ more 924/944's out there that were bought only for the badge on the hood than there are 911's bought for that reason.

Aaron

gluestick · 03-07-2003, 10:29 PM

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Honestly, I'd bet there there are a _lot_ more 924/944's out there that were bought only for the badge on the hood than there are 911's bought for that reason.

I don't know about that. I work (not live) in a pretty rich area, and i see a lot 911 owner come into the store i work at. If i ask them about their car they usually dont know anything. I once saw a very beautiful 1995 Carrera 4, and I asked the owner of the car about his 993, he had no clue was I was talking about. However, to this day every 944 driver that i have talked to on the street has talked to me for at least 5 minutes about their car if they had the chance. I'm not saying that ALL 911 drivers are clueless, I'm just saying don't discount the fact that many rich a-holes buy 911's because it makes them look rich.

todwic · todwic's Garage

notice they don't make any more air cooled engines.

Frank B · 03-07-2003, 10:44 PM

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If you haven't heard of Derek Bell, um, he was a really good driver.

Yes indeedy he was!!... and yes he has a 924 Turbo....still drives it too from what I've read..

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It's like the popular myth that Harley riders scoff at Japanese bikes.

It a popular and TRUE myth..tis a shame

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Do you think that a 944 (on a straight track 2 mi. long) could take a 1963 Pontiac Catalina with a tripple deuce?

I do, simply because the Pontiac Catalina 1963?..would have to start braking about half way into the race to keep from crashing into something at the end of the run..... they had drum brakes all around if I'm not mistaken and they weighed almost 5400 lbs. right?..big, fat, fast, pigger car. the porsche would handle it definately. THose old cars are horrible handling veyicles they shimmy and shake and rattle.... oh my god, I'm getting scared just talking about it.

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It's the same reason why the 914 is the ba$tard son of Porsche as the 924/944 is the red headed step child, they were designed by Porsche to become VW's but volkswagen didn't like them so Porsche went ahead and built them.

Incorrectamundo.. Porsche needed the revenue that this very smart (and cheap..er...inexpensive) car could generate to keep em floating. They simply just took the VW design and did very minor changes to seperate it from the VW's that were already tagged as VW... Porsche just said, "It's mine I want it back!" Because Chevy had some succes with mY fave the Corvaire.. Porsche said hmm.. they want a mid engine car, well, we'll have one... I mean WE have one too and it's the same price!! except it's twice the money and it's a VW....*er* PORSCHE... look..!!.

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Obviously things changed a bit in late 85 though or like the crazy old fart said it could just be that the 911 guys have short pee pees

o.k.

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I got a ride with a neighbor in a 930 (very very sweet badass fast car hehe).

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Extremely bad ass car....nice...