Need advice on selling price

[spugeddy]

I am selling my 1986 NA 944 non-turbo, and can't find a good valuation service online that is free.

The car is an honest example with a decent body, pretty good interior, and really no major driving issues. Mileage is around 170K. Paint is good, tires, brakes gearbox all good. Car is complete and is a daily driver.

Car was FL/GA car its whole life, and is white with black interior. No rust.

From what I have seen online for sale midrange is around $8000. Near perfect examples are around $15,000 and junk cars are around $3000.

Do you think $8000 is a fair listing price? Clean title, no accidents reported, no salvage, no flood.

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[Dano944]

I have a 1983 that I believe is near perfect. It was my father-in-laws, and the car had 113,000 miles and has no dash cracks, a tiny bit of thread separating on the drivers seat, paint is perfect (still has pin striping) except for some tiny paint dings on the nose, and had had all major services done recently. On Hagerty, I raised my insurance value from $8,000 up to $15,500.

[996c4s]

So the question I have to ask... And all honesty here...do you want to sell the car? Reason I ask is... 170k miles and you think you can get $8k? I love these cars. I currently own 5 range ranging from 1982 to 1992. 924 to 968 and am realistic on their values. A 170k mile car will not command a hight value. Realistic price if you want it to sell and it is otherwise mint is $4k... But don't go below that. So I would ask $4500 and see how it goes. Or let others tell you that you can get $8k for it and still have it this time next year.

[djnolan]

Two years ago valuations were higher and people were looking for stay home projects however those days are somewhat over. I have heard the drive trains are good for 250k miles and the galvanized bodies last even longer. it depends on how it shows, too. Is the engine compartment detailed and is it clean in the wheel wells and underneath? Is there a maintenance log book and receipts for major items such as seals, clutch and any head work? Is the exhaust solid? Are the tires, belts and hoses fresh? All this will affect valuation and sales appeal. If you re not sure, get a 2nd opinion from a mechanic about the overall condition.

[jcommin]

I would ask 10K esp if the car is well documented and maintained: belts hoses and the like. Make sure the AC works. You also need to know your bottom price too ($4K- 5K???).

[spugeddy]

Thanks all. This is helpful. I didn't know what to list it for, but did a search and between 21 Florida listings they were averaging $8000. $15 for near perfect, and about $3 for missing parts, no paint, or not running. I'll probably start to lower as I have only had 3 bites in 1 week so far at $8,000.

[walfreyydo]

I would be at about $6k, but I dont think $8k is highly unreasonable for a starting point.

Lower mileage and like new condition I could realistically see $8k. The car appears to be in good condition interior/exterior wise (and the script seats are a nice touch), but at 170k miles I need to believe there is a lot of major maintenance the car needs (suspension/bushings, clutch, tt bearings, multiple engine oil leaks, etc)

Asking prices online (FB 944 parts for sale groups and marketplace mainly) are highly skewed. Many folks trying to boost prices and perceptions by advertising high asking prices, but these rarely sell (but perceptions are affected, which is the goal). Many people have visions of grandeur and have an emotional connection or belief that time/money invested into to a car can be recouped resulting in unrealistic asking prices. Those cars will often sit for sale for a long time with the seller eventually capitulating to a much lower price (again youll see this in FB marketplace) or deciding not to sell.

Realistically most average condition NA's go for $5-6k. Sometimes higher, but again, needs to be above average condition. Poor condition cars are not worth more than $2-$3k, and often even less.

The issue with the NA's is they will never command S, S2 or Turbo prices (which can be very high - $10k to 20k+) simply due to the fact that for a $10k NA you can find a different, higher hp, better performing platform (whether a 944 or something else). Frankly, I would take a poorer condition turbo or S2 at 10k over a mint condition NA at 10K-others may disagree.

In terms of the higher end of the NA market spectrum, I dont think I could ever justify spending $15k on an NA regardless of condition. I feel those prices are unrealistic. At the end of the day its still a slow NA with limited potential and you could much more easily get into something like a Boxster/FRS/BRZ or even S2k at that price point (performance potential is not always the motivating factor for people though I get it).

Just my personal opinion but Im just a middle-class average Joe with a limited budget and a passion for these cars.

[Monkey Wrench]

swapping the belts, fuel pump, maybe the fuel hoses and a lot of the rubber parts can alter the value a lot.

If it was garaged the dash might not be cracked. my point is in what you said you sound around right but that may depend if it's a car that had lots of maintenance or one that simply ran to this point with only oil changes. One real serious drawback is if it figure someone thrashed it, if it has a lot of mods, a boom box , things like that, maybe some kid owned it and learned how to drive ( hard) on it. commonly then the mods take place whereas if it was owned by an older person just as a car and not as any sort of "racer" it may have lived a more gentle life.
I think we were all 21 once and can reflect upon what things we did to our cars. One reason I'd never buy from a lot or a dealer, I like to gather a bit about it's history and let the owner drive me for the first test anyway, see how they drive it. some are very gentle by habit, others wreck stuff by being rough.

I'd list what maintenance things you have done and if none maybe ask a bit less.
any potential owner will know about the timing belt so just doing that at the very least, might be worthwhile and then you can say that's just been done.
Prices here in Canada seem about in the ballpark to what others noted, taking exchange of about 75% into account.. they might be a tad higher than Im seeing here.
tires matter too, mine look nice but are all checking and rotting and unsafe now, so that's $1000, just guessing. If they park by feel and have messed up the rims that's expensive to fix. I was lucky to get nice rims.

[jcommin]

It is an asking, liking and taking price mentality. To me those are the boundaries. I would also research sold history on Ebay, BAT, Hemmings, etc.

[mncdriver]

Honestly, I believe location has a lot to do with how much these cars sell for. I don't think 8k is out of the norm if all the service work has been done. I do have a question on the cup holders you show in the FB pictures? Got any info?

[Monkey Wrench]

there is some strategy around the advertised price. I tend to look at the price advertised as the same as the sale price, others fully expect to dicker. there is sometimes merit in picking a realistic price and posting the price as firm because posting a higher price than expected can exclude buyers who see their limits exceeded in the advertised price. There is often a lot of overpriced stuff anywhere there are free ads. some do post fake ads to try to increase the overall expected price on a piece they hope to sell. It might be referred to as an act of "shilling"

like with buying a house you might get a better idea by actually visiting and looking but then you are a "looky lou", and sellers don't appreciate non serious buyers test driving, tire kicking, and wasting their time.

[Jfrahm]

You might want to fix the FB listing to say it's a manual. I have not been able to do that in Chrome but it must be possible in the FB app.

[Monkey Wrench]

using Facebook limits the buyer base to those who have an account with Facebook. to much tracking and data collecting for my liking , I quit using that website long ago, although there is a 20 year old profilt I dont even bother to look at. It's a personal choice to give the rights of every picture to the corporation or to refuse to play that game. I couldn't see the ad, never mind reply to it. Agree or not, it's limiting the number of views, thus potential buyers. You can always use multiple sites.

correction : I did open it, it displays some type and pictures but there is no contact info available, maybe you can put that within the text.

[spugeddy]

Originally Posted by mncdriver

Honestly, I believe location has a lot to do with how much these cars sell for. I don't think 8k is out of the norm if all the service work has been done. I do have a question on the cup holders you show in the FB pictures? Got any info?

yes, i had an aftermarket cup holder in my console of my f150 and it fit perfectly wedged in there. just painted it black and it was good to go. perfect. got lucky

[spugeddy]

car sold. got offer of $7,000

[jcommin]

Well done!