What is my '66 911 Worth???

[ricks234]

Hi guys,

I've been a lurker on this board for quite some time, and have finally gotten around to starting to use my account.

I have a 1966 911, and was wondering what you guys thought the value of the car might be.

It has fresh paint with around 10 miles on it. I just spent thousands on a complete exterior restoration on the car. It is on the factory steel wheels with the porsche chrome hub caps.

The engine is an early CIS motor out of a 73.5 T. It has the original (rebuilt) 901 transmission.

All the rust has been removed from the car, and the car, and every panel has been removed and undercoated. Engine runs strong, and shows no issues.

The interior is not original. The gauges are out of a 1968 911, and the seats are the recaros out of an SC.

I don't have any pictures at the time, but the exterior is perfect.

I know the car isn't original and I'm not going to get top dollar, but I really would like to know a starting price. Thanks guys!

[pirahna]

Pics?

[ricks234]

I don't currently have any pics, as the car is in the shop getting the final touches done. Picture a very clean freshly painted 901 The car has been painted polo red.

[Macroni]

sounds like a nice SWB hotrod (with hotrod being defined as non-matching number motor performance car)..... these tend to be difficult to analyze w/o pictures. Value is contingent to the build quality.




This one sold for $49,500 very quickly.

Here is the thread:
68-911 r inspired - Early 911S Registry Bulletin Board

[ricks234]

I will post pics of mine as soon as I get it back, then I will be posting it for sale!

[ricks234]

I know I'm reviving this thread from the dead, but I am just about done with the car, and am still unsure what to list it at as far as price goes.

[ricks234]

guys, still looking for a starting point to list the car at. I am thinking 35...does that sound fair????

[racer]

in my world, $35K is way too high for this car.

Tell us some specs.. motor, suspension, whats been repaired, how's the front pan, is there still rust? wheel size, how's the interior, why you went with an "offroad" ride height etc etc.

[ricks234]

The motor is a 73.5 T motor with about 40k on it. 5 spd 901 trans. Front pan has been repaired. No rust, except maybe some slight surface on some of the suspension components. The interior is in good shape, and has 80's sport seats. I didn't modify the suspension at all. What would you say is fair. I appreciate your honesty regarding the car!

[Macroni]

Rick,
The car doesn't look bad but is still in need of sorting. IMO some of the features actually detract from the value (Dark Windows, Black trim, 80s Seats). I think the value is going to be south of $20,000 as it is. If you pull it together a bit you will increase its value. For me this would include the setting of its ride height lower, tying the trim together (add chrome to headlights) then black Porsche stripes and bumper tape, replace the seats w/GTS replicas or period correct buckets .....

[ricks234]

Ouch, that is about 10 grand less than i expected. Given the current market for these old cars, and the low numbers left, I figured at a minimum 30k in its current condition. After all, in body work alone I have spent just shy of 10.

[Christien]

It's a terrible market right now, even for longhoods. And what the market is after is originality - that's what's bringing the big $$s right now. And, unfortunately, that's not what you've got. You've got a less-than-desirable motor (quite possible the worst air-cooled 911 motor Porsche ever made), and the cosmetic updates will detract from most people's view of the car. The black trim and painted headlight surrounds really look out of place on a longhood, IMO. The upshot is that those are pretty easy and inexpensive fixes. Well, the headlight surrounds are - I'm not sure what it would cost to redo the trim in chrome. Might be expensive. The newer seats might actually be a plus to some people (myself included). They're an easy swap to return to period-correct, if someone so desires.

I know this sounds harsh, but it's the reality of the situation. It sounds like you've put a lot of work and money into the car to get it where you want it - why sell it now? Why not drive it and enjoy it? Particularly at least until the market has recovered somewhat.

[ricks234]

Well the thing is, I have all the original windows/mouldings in chrome. They haven't been refinished, but could easily be. They would be sold with the car. As far as the headlights are concerned, The car has the H4 update. I could definitely get the surrounds chromed. Maybe ill just put the car on ebay, and see what kind of bids I pull. I'm guessing starting at the 20k mark listed above might be my best bet.


As for why I'm selling. I took a new job, and literally have no time to enjoy the car. I work 7 days/week, and when and if I have an off day, I spend the time in my 993. Unfortunately, this one has got to go.

[ricks234]

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/564245-1966-911st-hotrod.html. Will a car like this truly pull 18k? If so, I'd say my 30k mark should be pretty fair...

[ricks234]

Or this longhood here...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/559563-1973-911t-targa-hot-rod.html

[John Schaefer]

Originally Posted by Macroni

Rick,
The car doesn't look bad but is still in need of sorting. IMO some of the features actually detract from the value (Dark Windows, Black trim, 80s Seats). I think the value is going to be south of $20,000 as it is. If you pull it together a bit you will increase its value. For me this would include the setting of its ride height lower, tying the trim together (add chrome to headlights) then black Porsche stripes and bumper tape, replace the seats w/GTS replicas or period correct buckets .....

+1, and get rid of the 14" Fuchs.

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by ricks234

Or this longhood here...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/559563-1973-911t-targa-hot-rod.html

This 3.2L targa is a well sorted period correct car and a stupid bargin at the asking price! Wish I needed a car......

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by ricks234

I have all the original windows/mouldings in chrome.

The brightwork, IMO, is what makes these early cars unique. Adding back all chrome and trim pieces would be my gameplan for the greatest return. Clean up the old window frames to the best of your ability and re-install. The front and rear window frames are available from Porsche. Then I would get the deck lid letters, bumper and rocker trim, this will give a more unified look. Again swap out seats.


The 66 ST car is an interesting car. SWB wide body cars tend to have a unbalanced look and sit on the market for quite a while. There is a 68L widebody that has been on the market for a while now. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/561956-68-rsr-lightweight-clone-roller-make-offer-part-out.html

[hcariss]

Originally Posted by ricks234

Ouch, that is about 10 grand less than i expected. Given the current market for these old cars, and the low numbers left, I figured at a minimum 30k in its current condition. After all, in body work alone I have spent just shy of 10.

I think when you build a hotrod its the buyer who benefits (especially in this market). Not to be rude but I would expect mid-high teens offers, possibly very low twenties on ebay. From the pics its difficult to tell what color the car is, and with the 14" Fuchs the proportions look wrong
I'm pretty sure better photography would help you a lot as would everything Macroni and John Schaefer said.

[racer]

Share a pic of the interior if you have a chance.. by '80s sports seats are we talking "recaros" or 911 sport seats?

While I prefer chrome on longhoods, I think if you took the effort to "black out" the front trim grills, and even do headlight surrounds in black, you can effectively "tie the car together" which would help imho.

x2 on ditching the 14's. And while correct deep 6's can be prohibitive ($2k???) perhaps a set of 15" minilitesas a "period correct" update would help. I nearly bought some "new" ones for my 914 last year.. about $200-250 each iirc.

Also consider getting the ride height reset.. lower!

'73.5T motor is a fine motor imho, but in a "hot rod" application, 140hp won't be deemed enough by many. Most would want about 200 (whether from a modded 2.7 or a 3.0 or 3.2 transplant.. but with that much power becomes a need to upgrade brakes, suspension etc. So , on the otherhand, your 2.4 is likely nicely balanced with the older set up)