996 Turbo future collectability

[Micha]

Hello ,

I'm wondering what Porsche enthusiasts think of 996 series Turbo cars and Carrera 4S future values? Will they be like 930s or more like 944 Turbos?

I'm mostly a VW guy but I have followed Porsche used values for at least the last decade. 10 years ago you could get a 944 Turbo for $4k or for $10k. Today they are about the same, really good ones are going for $15k. Not much difference.

5 or so years ago local seller was asking 17 thousand for an early 930 cabrio with blown turbo. It took a few days and it sold. Today that would be 2-3 times as much if you could find one.

List goes on, a 1982 911sc with Strosek kit took months to sell for 10 grand a decade ago. Or a 1980 911 with small block conversion - no one wanted it at $5k.

All that said I'm wondering which direction will 996 series go? (specifically Turbo and C4S models). What about tiptronic vs. manual? What do you think?

[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by Micha

Hello ,



I'm wondering what Porsche enthusiasts think of 996 series Turbo cars and Carrera 4S future values? Will they be like 930s or more like 944 Turbos?



I'm mostly a VW guy but I have followed Porsche used values for at least the last decade. 10 years ago you could get a 944 Turbo for $4k or for $10k. Today they are about the same, really good ones are going for $15k. Not much difference.



5 or so years ago local seller was asking 17 thousand for an early 930 cabrio with blown turbo. It took a few days and it sold. Today that would be 2-3 times as much if you could find one.



List goes on, a 1982 911sc with Strosek kit took months to sell for 10 grand a decade ago. Or a 1980 911 with small block conversion - no one wanted it at $5k.



All that said I'm wondering which direction will 996 series go? (specifically Turbo and C4S models). What about tiptronic vs. manual? What do you think?

If it was a real turbo cab and it really only had a bad turbo you’re looking at more like 5Xs that amount today.


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[Cornerlot]

A 'really good' 944 Turbo will be more like $25k now days. Just depends on how good is good enough.

[johnvan8]

I would not put the C4S in the same boat as the Turbo. Completely different engine design with the C4S being haunted by the M96 engine problems.

[specialtyoneinc]

Maybe a perfect low mileage X50/05 Turbo S (Coupe 6spd) will be collectable someday. The rest will remain enthusiast cars most likely.

[Matt Monson]

I'm setting up a fund to sell 996TT futures if anyone wants to invest.

[johnvan8]

What are your opinions as to future collectible status of 996TT vs 996 GT3?

[gearby]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

I'm setting up a fund to sell 996TT futures if anyone wants to invest.

So you're going short?

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by johnvan8

What are your opinions as to future collectible status of 996TT vs 996 GT3?

Gt3 over 996ttbut not by too much.

[specialtyoneinc]

Originally Posted by johnvan8

What are your opinions as to future collectible status of 996TT vs 996 GT3?

996 Generation:

GT3RS > GT2 > GT3 > Turbo S/X50 Coupe (6spd)

[juanbenae]

the GT3's are more likely to have been used for track duty regularly than the turbos IMO so this could factor in the long run on both models. many more DD turbos than GT3s in my estimation. a shop I frequent regularly I see many GT3 models that see a ton of track time being serviced and yet to have seen an obvious 996tt there that seems to sees the track regularly.

[Driven97]

996 turbos seem to be racking up mileage left and right. People who buy them seem to pick them up as a lot of car for the money, then find out they're great everyday cars and can't stop driving them.

I suspect low mileage cars will be very rare before too long.

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by Driven97

996 turbos seem to be racking up mileage left and right. People who buy them seem to pick them up as a lot of car for the money, then find out they're great everyday cars and can't stop driving them.

I suspect low mileage cars will be very rare before too long.

i owned a 996tt for 10 months and sold it as it was neither the sunday or hobby car i was looking for after my spec car experience. my familiarity with air cooled cars DIY and the nannies on the turbo made it a simple choice to move on for me.


a 996 GT3 would still be sitting in the garage today had i been able to afford one when shopping for the turbo. that car IMO could not be loved like i love air cooled cars...

[Unobtanium-inc]

The 996 Turbo will be collectible, if it is a nice example. The problem in general with the 996 is they made thousands upon thousands of them and we are entering into a phase where they will start dropping like flies because they aren't worth fixing something big, much like the 928 has been in for the last 15 or so years.
Another good comparison is the mid 70's 911's that are just now coming back, after being in the douldrums for decades.
So if you are going to buy a 996 or a 996 Turbo for future collectability buy the nicest one you can find, meaning in today's market plan to spend $50,000+ on a Turbo, buying the $32,000 one with 150,000 miles and wheels made by some Italian company you've never heard of is not going to be the collectible one.
And if you plan to buy a 996 for future growth, find a low miles Annv. edition.

I own neither, everyone I drive is air-cooled, but I did drive a 996 when I was looking for another car. It drove a little too refined, like a Japanese Sports car. A friend who works for Porsche once confided in me that the 996 was a car the accountants designed, I felt that when I was driving it, nothing raw, nothing scary, like playing a video game where you see the gauges move, but not much else. It reminded me of driving a Mitsubishi 3000.

---Adam

[1979-930]

The bottom for any car seems to be the 15-20 year mark. That's about when the second or third owner is done with it and they can't afford to fix it. Like Adam posted.
It's 30-40 years before they become a collectable.
How many people have 10 years or more and the space to set on a car?

[urseppos]

I own both, air cooled and 996 C4S and the C4S is a hoot at the track. My air cooled(s) are more raw but that also has to do with when they were produced, can't compare the two. If you only drive your cars on the streets then ok, 996 is definitely more refined but wasn't that the purpose ?

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by 1979-930

The bottom for any car seems to be the 15-20 year mark. That's about when the second or third owner is done with it and they can't afford to fix it. Like Adam posted.
It's 30-40 years before they become a collectable.
How many people have 10 years or more and the space to set on a car?

Luckily, unlike stocks or bonds, you get to enjoy a car. I horse traded for my Roadster over 10 years ago, it was worth about $40,000 at the time. I've enjoyed it for years, it probably worth 3-4 times that now.
So if you bought a 996 Turbo now, enjoyed it for 10-15 years it would be worth much more. Compare that to going and buying an Audi or a Mini, in 10-15 years it will be close to worthless.

[camdon]

I think the 996 TT will be very desirable and is already on the rise. I also believe the C4S prices will follow the same trend as the C2 and C4S cars followed the 993TT's.

GET EM WHILE YOU CAN

[plexiform]

I think the 911 turbo will always be a desirable car. I think if you buy a nice condition 996turbo for current prices you will not lose money even if you enjoy it and put some miles on it. I bought mine to enjoy not resell. But I don’t expect to lose money.

[da Vinci Dan]

I would buy the nicest one you can find around 2020-2024 then watch the price climb. Seems to be like clockwork with any collectible car.