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[DSPTurtle]

Any of these slant noses for sale. ?

Everything is for sale...

[patina]

Originally Posted by 1986 930

I think that a quality conversion will do as well as a factory conversion given that the entry price of the factory conversion is generally higher. The investment potential is as much about what you pay up front as it is about a factory slant vs. an Alan Johnson, RUF, or other quality upgrade vendors. There will always be those who want the factory slant for collectability purposes but driving the car will dampen those investor types.

I have to disagree, true 505 cars will always be more valuable.

[Tt surgeon]

Yes, all things being equal,a 505/6 is always worth more.

[THECARREAPER]

My Ruf conversion will be for sale soon. Glass and headliner are going in. Touched up the paint in places while the glass was out.

5,500 miles since rebuilt with $40,000 in itemized receipts at Rennsport , Texas. over 550 + HP. Ice cold Griffith AC.


I will post it in the for sale section soon.

Car is way too fast for my needs and limits.


I also have an 84 Special Wishes Moss green Carrera that will be for sale also. Please PM as I don't want to take away from the thread.

[voitureltd]

[QUOTE=j930;7758381]i believe Alan Johnson used all OEM parts. although its not a true slant nose in that it was built in the motherland i can't imagine how there is not value there.

Good to hear others feel as I do. This is a original paint Fly yellow 79 930 color to sample, then built by Alan Johnson Racing 82-83 with the non vented fenders that were available then. Other upgrades were weltmeister suspension, under body vented brakes, limited slip set @ 80/20 and a 8:41 R&P, better cams, headers, head porting , Andial intercooler . I bought it 14 years ago with 29K miles ( now has 43K miles). It came from factory ( I have the window sticker) with sport seats, limited slip. I got it from the largest car collector in Texas, (J J Moore. approx 400+ cars). I have kept it as it was built at the very beginning of special wishes cars with no vent SN and color coordinated wheels, and it really is a great car to drive, was way ahead of it's time and is original as built in 83.

[voitureltd]

[voitureltd]

[QUOTE=1986 930;7758470]I think that a quality conversion will do as well as a factory conversion given that the entry price of the factory conversion is generally higher. The investment potential is as much about what you pay up front as it is about a factory slant vs. an Alan Johnson, RUF, DP or other quality upgrade vendors. There will always be those who want the factory slant for collectability purposes but driving the car will dampen those investor types.

Yes the factory production 505s are nice, but for others the higher performance quality ones built by RUF, Andial, Alan Johnson,, Kremer, DP and a few others can be very desirable also. I also have a 89 505 with an additional 190 HP, so that now is much nicer to drive.

[Tt surgeon]

Love that car!

[THECARREAPER]

VoitureLTD, I really like the how your yellow 930 has the flares, and boxed rockers, but no rear "vents". Looks very mean, and yet clean too ! Awesome pics, amazing car !!!!

[Tt surgeon]

Car reaper, really, really like your car. You have pm!

[1986 930]

Originally Posted by Tt surgeon

Thanks for the input guys, still looking but might buy this in the meantime to scratch da itch.
Mark, I'd buy your car in a second for 45, tell that to your wife!
C

I am just catching up.

Always good to hear that there is a potential buyer out there. I am a contract support guy for the navy so these days you never know when you are going to have to liquidate everything and move to live under a bridge!


I was able to get out to the local PCA Cars N Kaffee in Melbourne. Wow! A lot of beautiful cars out there. Another offer to buy the beast from one of the local PCA'ers. If I got it correct, I also met Kilodawg who is our local PCA President.


I couldn't figure out who manufactured my air dam. I did not think that it is a RUF Air Dam. I was going through the start of the thread and saw this photo extracted from an old PCA Article in 1988. The Air Dam in the photo is the same as mine so I am thinking that it was a Porsche Special Werks part that RUF used to do my car for UltraSmith in 1986.


Mine with the fog lamps out:



The article:



Does that make sense?

[DSPTurtle]

Yours looks to have the contours of the factory piece rather than the RUF piece. Have you looked at other 930S front spoilers for comparison? So one time I don't show up to the yacht club kaffee and there is another slant there??? Lol

[Tt surgeon]

Your looks like the porsche part, not quiet the same as the blue one I was looking at last week(Allen Johnson conversion 87).
I have a line on yet another black 505!
Blue car

[Tt surgeon]

Actually, yours is similar to car reapers ruf Germany conversion

[1986 930]

Originally Posted by DSPTurtle

Yours looks to have the contours of the factory piece rather than the RUF piece. Have you looked at other 930S front spoilers for comparison? So one time I don't show up to the yacht club kaffee and there is another slant there??? Lol

I was looking for you!

We should be at the Christmas Party.

I think that it is a Factory Spoiler as well. Not RUF and pre- Factory 505. It was done in '86 straight off of the truck from Pittsburgh to Manhattan for the conversion. I have the original sticker from the dealer in Pitt and records from Exclusive Motors (RUF N.A.)doing the service after they did the conversion. I wish that I could find original brochures from Ultrasmith from that era.

[WERK I]

Originally Posted by 1986 930

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I couldn't figure out who manufactured my air dam. I did not think that it is a RUF Air Dam. I was going through the start of the thread and saw this photo extracted from an old PCA Article in 1988. The Air Dam in the photo is the same as mine so I am thinking that it was a Porsche Special Werks part that RUF used to do my car for UltraSmith in 1986.


Mine with the fog lamps out:

Mark,
That's the same front spoiler as mine. Special Wishes option. Do you have the Porsche oil cooler behind the grill and the oil lines running through the front of the bonnet?

[1986 930]

It does have the front mounted oil cooler. I believe that the lines run along the right hand side to the front and back like a stock oil cooler. They are just longer to get to the front of the car vice just to the right front fender.

[EBinOC]

All, I am new to this forum, but after browsing this thread, I'm clearly in the right place for some guidance. I have been in the hunt for a project 911, but have recently come to find a 930 slant nose in a barn. Here are some details:

Mfg date 8/83, Euro spec (ZZZ in VIN). Given to widow's husband as debt payment. Has not run in 2 yrs. less that 10k on the odo.

There are some pretty gnarly rust spots around the f/r windshield. Rockers look ok. floor pan looks ok. paint seems to original. Some rust around the headlights.

Car came to US via Columbia... I'm betting this car has some interesting previous owners.

No paperwork or history from the widow. Interior is rough.

Questions:

- Is there a way to find who did the conversion since the factory 505/506 option was not available until later?
- What else do I need to go back and look at?
- Are these conversions worth putting time/money into restoring?
- How tough/expensive is it to repair the rust around windshield?
- What kind of value would you put on a car in this condition/not running?

This thread has been REALLY helpful. The car is really cool and I'd like to make her a fair offer if the value is there. Thank you!

[1986 930]

Wow!

That is in pretty rough shape.

It is really hard, if not impossible, to figure out who did the original work converting it without the paperwork. You can figure out who did not do it though. You can ask Porsche if it was a special works car or RUF can verify if they did it. Most of the tuners that did that kind of work have long since gone the way of the dinosour and the information with them. You can verify whether OEM Parts were used as well. That is about it.

Looks like a lot of work but if you are handy with a wrench then I suppose it will make a great ground up restoration. If you are paying someone to do it......oooooof! There could easily be $30k worth of motor rebuild/paint body work/ interior/ electrical going on there


Good Luck.

Mark

[TurboKraft]

That intake manifold looks like Jarvis' work.