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New intercooler prompts aftermarket A/C suggestions

New intercooler takes up deck lid condenser room. I need guidance per aftermarket condensers/placement locations.
Any help appreciated (It was 107 here in Tucson yesterday)

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You can put one in front of the tire in the driver side wheel and or above the oil thermostsat in the passenger side wheel well. Also can put another behind the driver side tire in the driver side wheel well.
The biggest kit with 10" fan for in front of the drivers side tire is from Zim's.
http://www.***********/cgi/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eallzim%2eco m%2facatalog%2f&WD=conditioner%20air&PN=911_COOL_Kit%2ehtml%23a911_2e573_2eADD_2eCOOL#a 911_2e573_2eADD_2eCOOL
I have one and it works great.


Then there's the big underbelly condenser.
If you ditch the big windsheild washer tank in the front of the driver side front tire and just use the little one next to the master cylinder for washer fluid you can put another condenser there like the 993 has. You can also replace the nose condenser with a thicker serpentine condenser.
If you have no right front fender oil cooler there's still another spot for a condenser with fan.

After a while you'll have so many fans running, your car will make alot of fan noise and the alternator will probably explode...

You can also make a subcooler or buy a procooler, but how much they actually cool the vent temps is unknown.
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"After a while you'll have so many fans running, your car will make alot of fan noise and the alternator will probably explode..."

LOL. I'm visualizing the car behaving like hovercraft right before the alternator goes.
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do what i do, open the windows and drive faster to cool off.
thogh in michigan we dont get much of a summer here....usually about 2 weeks in august.
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Yep, I too would love to know of anyone without a condenser in the tail that has decent air con?
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Here is what I always wanted to try- Get a condensor from a 964 and stick it in the front left wing. The 964/993 unit works good for those cars i dont see why it wouldnt work good for ours.
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I've heard (seen) you mention that Kris, I think it's time you pioneer that set up and let us know if it works
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I would love to spence, but my car is in the stage of tuning for higher power right now and that sucks up my money like a vacuum.
Now... If I were to try this, I would call up one of the companies that makes all the custom length lines and have them cook up a pair of lines to fit. Then I would keep the belly condensor and maybe even add a second 964 condensor in the rear wheel well somewhere.
Those cores are nasty efficient, I swear- How would that core survive 9 years from the 89 C4 to the 98' 993TT?
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Hello all,
I have one of those ginormous, aftermarket, under belly condenser. Weighs about a bijillion pounds and was extremely efficient at collecting leaves, dirt, small rocks, small rodents, empty pop cans, blah, blah, blah.
I took it off so fast it would make your head spin, but then again, I took off ALL the A/C.
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do what i do, open the windows and drive faster to cool off.
thogh in michigan we dont get much of a summer here....usually about 2 weeks in august.
Fred, your joking, right?
This has been an unusually cool summer in Michigan. Usually starting the first part of July and ending mid-September it's high 80's-low 90's and 90% humidity most of the time, at least the last 10 years anyway.
My SC didn't have a/c, which meant that depending on where I was driving (like the expressway, for instance) the car didn't get used. Having good a/c in my next P-car became a priority.
The a/c in my 965 gets so cold I can make slushy drinks with it .
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of course i was joking mostly, i have lived here 13years, and agree that it sees 80's typically, but not too often do we see 90's. it aint that bad here.
you guys should stop whining and drive the damn car, a/c adds weight, develops leaks, costs $$ to fix, and the germans dont have a/c in most of their homes or work places to this day.
now for epslick in arizona, i see his right to complain.
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Thanks Kris, I'll look into this, so 964/993s just have one condenser in front left wheel well?
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Yes that is the only one and thats where it is located- When I origonaly bought my car I wanted to keep a/c and do it the exact way that I am talking about with the C2/4 condenser. But My car was a slant nose and there wasnt any way the fit the c2/4 condensor because of the low slant nose headlight bucket and like you my intercooler is way to big to keep the main condensor. Since then I gutted all a/c equipment and now that I am doing some other mods, a light weight optima battery is moving in where the a/c evaporator used to go- so I dont think she will get a/c anymore .
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you guys should stop whining and drive the damn car, a/c adds weight, develops leaks, costs $$ to fix, and the germans dont have a/c in most of their homes or work places to this day.
You didn't mention that the Germans don't have screens on their windows either. It hardly ever gets hot there so no a/c is no big deal. Detroit ain't Germany, however.
My big reason for wanting a/c is for e-way driving: I'm exposed to a lot of industrial noise so I'm not fond of the buffett sound with the windows down at 90 mph
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Driving in south florida from april to november without AC is miserable... and forget about female passengers with no AC, if thats an option.
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last sunday here in south florida it was 90*.... a/c is a must but so is a monster intercooler. i'm going to look into the 993 set-up
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last sunday here in south florida it was 90*.... a/c is a must but so is a monster intercooler. i'm going to look into the 993 set-up
Hopefully you have more room in the 930. I test fitted a 993 setup in my left front SC fender last month and there is no making it fit even without the bracket. It looks like it will end up going in the left rear fender without the 993 mounting bracket or fan. I am going to custom fab a mount for the condenser and add a Spal fan.
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