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The pros and cons of twin plugging a 930 are certainly debatable and many of them are discussed in the following old thread . . .

Advantages of Twin Plug

When the engine is heavily loaded CHT is going to be one of the largest contributors to detonation which is why I think the known disadvantages of losing several square inches of head cooling surface area isn't worth a small tweak in ignition timing the twin plugging might give you.

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The pros and cons of twin plugging a 930 are certainly debatable and many of them are discussed in the following old thread . . .

Advantages of Twin Plug

When the engine is heavily loaded CHT is going to be one of the largest contributors to detonation which is why I think the known disadvantages of losing several square inches of head cooling surface area isn't worth a small tweak in ignition timing the twin plugging might give you.
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progress!

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Measuring Valve Spring Heights

My plan is to get the heads built up this week, so I have a couple of questions. Are all 930 valves springs set to 34.5mm and what do you use to measure them with while shimming?

Also, do I really need a $50 tool to measure the height?

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EDIT: I'll be running SC cams so that may affect the height wanted too and I read somewhere a builder recommended 33.5mm heights for 930s...
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rockers

Rocker refurbed by: Dougherty Racing Cams

Thanks John, they look better then new!
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What Valve Spring Height???

I have a set of Super Cup cams, which I think are John's grind cuz they are stamped DRC.

I need to know valve spring stack height for new valve springs, so if anybody knows pls help
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The rockers look great Rick.

As far as the recommended spring heights and related info, if its not on the cam card I would suggest contacting John for the details since you are the owner of his product now after all.
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The rockers look great Rick.

As far as the recommended spring heights and related info, if its not on the cam card I would suggest contacting John for the details since you are the owner of his product now after all.
I did ask him to chime in when he gets time cuz I don't have the cam card. However, I found what looks like the lift/timing on his website:

SC on Turbo int/exh

Duration at 1mm = 236/224
Duration at 0.050" = 228/218
Lift = 0.450"/0.395"
lobe seperatrion angle = 113
lift@overlap setting 1.4-1.7mm
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1999 Harley Davidson Custom 1250 Hardtail Bobber..SOLD
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he's good i lost the cam timing card from my ssc cams and last time i had the engine apart i called him and he knew right away what i had and what to time the cams at.
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Cam Timing is set at 2.0mm. Valve spring open height 1.5 mm from coil bind. IF you plan on shifting over 7000 rpm, consider an aftermarket valve spring.

http://www.drcamshafts.com/profiles/supercup.htm
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Cam Timing is set at 2.0mm. Valve spring open height 1.5 mm from coil bind. IF you plan on shifting over 7000 rpm, consider an aftermarket valve spring.

http://www.drcamshafts.com/profiles/supercup.htm

Thanks John, I'll set them at 35.5mm +/- a frog hair and the warranty on these 2005 cams doesn't start till they are installed, right?
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I get nervous when I see a nose bearing without the o-ring and the bearing case dowel installed.

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Good eye and what you can't see is the missing dowel pin on order too

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I get nervous when I see a nose bearing without the o-ring and the bearing case dowel installed.
Nice edit and you missed a couple other things too. Let me know if you see them?
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