Kentucky Derby -wow wow WOW

[CurtEgerer]

It only had an affect on who finished 3rd and 4th. To totally disqualify the clear winner of The Derby because he may have affected the 3rd and 4th place horse is BS. If they are going to start enforcing technicalities to determine the winner, every aggrieved owner will file disputes from here on out, knowing they now have a chance to improve their position based on this first in history precedent. There was a LOT of bumping at the start too (as usual) - will that be a basis for a penalty next year? Probably.

If Maximum Security had been trained by their favorite Bob Baffert, the stewards wouldn't have even bothered to look at the videos.

[Chocaholic]

And it wasn’t the stewards that initiated the reconsideration. Nor was it the two affected riders. Seems an opportunistic play by the second place team to steal the win from the faster horse. Unfortunately it worked.

I’d guess if you go back and watch the last ten Kentucky Derby’s, you’d see much worse. This was a bad call. My opinion.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Whether it was the animal or the jockey is immaterial. Watching it live with a roomful of horse people, we all thought there would be a protest. Its just too dang dangerous for the trailing horse. These horses make 100's of millions in stud, and one with a broken leg generally gets put down, so its financial as well as safety.
Right call...

Thanks for that perspective....watched it...distracted w/ puppy...best horse won THAT race imo. I equated it to a bs call in sports I do know...with even more $ at stake too imo. As a VERY casual observer....it was B$....in this case H$ ...I really don't care...I know who WON that race

[greglepore]

Originally Posted by KC911

Thanks for that perspective....watched it...distracted w/ puppy...best horse won THAT race imo. I equated it to a bs call in sports I do know...with even more $ at stake too imo. As a VERY casual observer....it was B$....in this case H$ ...I really don't care...I know who WON that race

Yes, and he'll make the money in stud that the winner deserves. I don't think the stewards took it lightly. And if you watch the vid, not only did Max impede the 3rd place horse, but he also cut back inside and bumped the rail horse after. Looked to me like he was outta control.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Yes, and he'll make the money in stud that the winner deserves. I don't think the stewards took it lightly. And if you watch the vid, not only did Max impede the 3rd place horse, but he also cut back inside and bumped the rail horse after. Looked to me like he was outta control.

We are all in the opinion business on this one, but I agree with the assessment above. Seeing it in real time I knew there was going to be a protest. Watch the rerun and track horse 5.

Since I grew up working horses, I worked as a swing groom for a known horse trainer my senior year in HS in Aiken, SC - a big winter training ground for Thoroughbreds - when we moved there. I also worked a winter grooming when I was chasing the baseball dream.

I know the sons of a lot of well know trainers, jockeys (flat and Steeplechase) from that era. I called one after the race. "Good call", was his answer. He also mentioned that the initial winning jockey brought up the potential interference when we was being interviewed while still mounted.

Given the financial stakes, this is far from over - the owner and trainer have mentioned a follow-on protest.

If you folks have never been to a flat race/Steeplechase, do it. The power of these animals in full flight is wondrous to behold in person.

[KFC911]

I barely watched it real time...no replays...I'm outta this one .

Paul...go to the Tanglewood Steeplechase sometime if ya get a chance...po' folks playin' horsey

[greglepore]

Foxfield steeplechase here in Charlottesville is cool-spring is a uva rowdyfest, fall subdued


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[lukeh]

I know nothing about horse racing but as soon as we saw it I told me wife that a horse swerving outside like that seemed questionable. He cut off another horse and that isn't legal...it is considered dangerous. You can't concern yourself with the fact of what horses were affected because that would turn it into the NBA. Guy hits player on the wrist but the fouler is a star, playing at home and it's in the 4th quarter...so no call. But if it was on the road in the 1st quarter then we'll call it. The winner cut off two other horses, those horses had to pull up and that isn't legal. Glad they had the guts to call a foul a foul. If they don't call it when everyone knows it's a foul (announcer even said so) then you open a can a worms and conspiracy theories.

[Sooner or later]

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/05/05/maximum-security-co-owner-weighs-options-after-derby-disqualification/23721900/


Kentucky Horse Racing Commission chief steward Barbara Borden said the riders of Long Range Toddy and Country House lodged objections against Maximum Security for interference.


"We had a lengthy review of the race," Borden said. "We interviewed affected riders. We determined that (Maximum Security) drifted out and impacted the progress of War of Will, in turn interfering with the 18 and 21. Those horses were all affected by the interference."


Friday's Kentucky Oaks for fillies began with a scary spill at the start by Positive Spirit that dumped rider Manny Franco. Neither the horse nor rider was injured, and both walked off the track. Serengeti Empress won the race in her first start since pulling up early in March at Fair Grounds with external bleeding.

The incidents come soon after the industry enacted a raft of medication and safety rules changes following the deaths of 23 horses over three months at California's Santa Anita.

[L8Brakr]

The way Maximum Security blocked the field by moving three lanes to the right and then diving back to the rail made me wonder........When did Max Verstappen become a jockey?

[KFC911]

Ol' #3 would've never had the win "stolen" an hour later like that...racin' is racin'...then settle it with a brawl....

I might even watch the replays then

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

If you folks have never been to a flat race/Steeplechase, do it. The power of these animals in full flight is wondrous to behold in person.

We go to Radnor Hunt Steeplechase. Will agree spectacular to behold.

We also attend Preakness.

[Hugh R]

Originally Posted by Baz

Here ya go Peter.....

Wow and Wow what an amazing picture. Don't know horse racing at all, but if it was a legitimate call, no matter how old a rule, its just too bad. For the nag that got the boot.

[legion]

So, how were the bets paid?

[Sooner or later]

Bets were paid on final official result.

It won't be overturned. Two owners filed a protest. All three judges were in agreement. .

Thie is not the first time a horse has been disqualified in a horse race.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by L8Brakr

The way Maximum Security blocked the field by moving three lanes to the right and then diving back to the rail made me wonder........When did Max Verstappen become a jockey?

Indy Car champion Paul Tracy calls it "the Pruitt fade".

Originally Posted by lukeh

You can't concern yourself with the fact of what horses were affected because that would turn it into the NBA. Guy hits player on the wrist but the fouler is a star, playing at home and it's in the 4th quarter...so no call.

Happens in the NHL with certain players both famous and infamous and it sux.

[Jeff Higgins]

Too much money at stake. That seems to be the underlying problem with most sports these days. Pretty much takes the "sport" out of much of it.

[svandamme]

Any kind of competition with horses, Steeple, racing, jupings, etc etc is about the ego of the owners or gambling business.. It's never about the horse being put first in the decisions.. So to hell with it..it's a racket.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

So it’s like F1 under Bernie Ecclestone then basically.. Ok now I understand- I think..

[Sooner or later]

Anthony Stabile, Horse Racing Radio Network talks about Derby. 10 minutes and gives his expert take



https://cbssportsradio.radio.com/media/audio-channel/anthony-stabile-horse-racing-radio-network