Who here thinks they already had this in months past ?

[mgatepi]

My wife and I both had all the same symptoms from February 13th to the 20th! Miserable dry cough and fatigue like I have never experienced! I was DOWN for 4 days straight! I cant ever remember being down 4 days straight in my life.
Does make you wonder........

[smokintr6]

Originally Posted by mgatepi

My wife and I both had all the same symptoms from February 13th to the 20th! Miserable dry cough and fatigue like I have never experienced! I was DOWN for 4 days straight! I cant ever remember being down 4 days straight in my life.
Does make you wonder........

I see you're also in Ohio. Those were almost the same dates I was down. I also recall at the time hearing on the radio that "hospitalizations for 'the flu' had taken an unexpected uptick" at that time. I wonder if they were really testing people for influenza, or just diagnosing based on symptoms. They can't find what they're not looking for. The counter point is obviously that it's possible flu was just raging out of control at that time and we got it. But my symptoms definitely lined up closer with COVID than flu.

[mgatepi]

Originally Posted by smokintr6

I see you're also in Ohio. Those were almost the same dates I was down. I also recall at the time hearing on the radio that "hospitalizations for 'the flu' had taken an unexpected uptick" at that time. I wonder if they were really testing people for influenza, or just diagnosing based on symptoms. They can't find what they're not looking for. The counter point is obviously that it's possible flu was just raging out of control at that time and we got it. But my symptoms definitely lined up closer with COVID than flu.

This was not the Flu....or not like any Flu I ever had before! We are located just North of Dayton.

[jwasbury]

47 years old in January. Rarely sick for any length of time. I was knocked down for several days in early February. Started with a strange feeling sore throat, then fatigue and fever, ridiculous chills (which I have never felt anything like before), diarrhea, eventually a crunchy cough which lingered well after other symptoms were gone. I work for a Japanese owned bank in NYC, so there were people coming into our building every day from overseas. I wondered at the time if it could be the virus I was hearing about on TV.

[nota]

well NOW or soon anyway you can find out if you had it

https://www.massdevice.com/fda-clears-bodysphere-2-minute-covid-19-test/

test for anti-bodys no lab just a drop of blood in the test strip
if you have had the cv-19 you get two lines no anti-bodys line is different placed and only 1
even sammy could do it

[flatbutt]

I had a dry cough for a couple of weeks but no fever. Does that count?


As far as the strip test:

Sensitivity (also called the true positive rate, the recall, or probability of detection in some fields) measures the proportion of actual positives that are correctly identified as such (e.g., the percentage of sick people who are correctly identified as having the condition).
Specificity (also called the true negative rate) measures the proportion of actual negatives that are correctly identified as such (e.g., the percentage of healthy people who are correctly identified as not having the condition).

The article says 91% Sensitivity and 99% Specificity.

[Crowbob]

A coupla weeks ago for about three days I kept thinking I was smelling smoke. Like there was a campfire upwind except it didn't go away even while I was in my house or car. Right after that I got a 'cold' and vomited which was weird and was down for one day. The next day I felt pretty good but was exhausted and slept for like 20 hours.

Nothing since. No symptoms, not even runny nose or cough.

[cstreit]

I don't think its been around in this mutation for long given the epic proportions it is reaching.

However an early mutation? Possible....

[unclebilly]

I don’t think many if any of you Covid-19 and here is why:

The virus didn’t show up in North America until Mid January and at that point was only spread by contact with someone who was infected in China.

In Alberta, we have conducted just under 50,000 tests on people with Covid-19 symptoms and only 754 have been positive.

I think like the 49,000 Albertans that tested negative, you were sick but didn’t have Covid-19.

Here is the data:










Source:

https://covid19stats.alberta.ca/

[drcoastline]

Interestingly Rush did a spot on corona virus and California yesterday, pointing out the lack of cases and deaths in California relative to the population and potential exposure. He notes a state of 40M people has 7,477 active cases and only 149 dead. He also points out that when this first hit the US the Chinese New Year was in full swing. The largest migration of humans on the planet. Some 2 billion plus Chinese people from around the world heading home to celebrate the New Year.

"Daily travel to and from China, business and pleasure, in and out of San Francisco, San Jose, Los Angeles, LAX, How is it that California is not the epicenter?"

"California, as many models have been predicting, should be ground zero of infection, and yet it appears not to be." One hundred and fifty deaths so far, with all these trips. Now, I’m not a doctor, and I’m gonna make sure that I am just speaking as a layman here, but it could well be that so many Californians have been exposed to this virus — you know, 5,000 to 7,000 Chinese arrive at California airports every day. You go back and count that up, add it up from December, January, February, what if the people of California have somehow been made immune to it because they’ve been exposed to the virus and don’t have it or found a way to fight it off. It’s a gigantic question. California ought to be the epicenter. It ought to be ground zero of infection, and it isn’t."

To mirror this a guy I went to high school with is an EMT In Los Angeles he posted on Facebook he has not transported one person with Symptoms or has been tested positive or died form Corona Virus.

Full Rush piece here.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/03/31/why-isnt-california-ground-zero-of-infection/

[fastfredracing]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiqr5-v3a_pAhXBW80KHWbZCSgQFjADegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wlwt.com%2Farticle%2Fantibod y-testing-reveals-covid-19-has-been-in-ohio-since-january-health-officials-say%2F32438290&usg=AOvVaw2oNbjXtPvbq_fEzjbo6sSd
I knew it

[rattlsnak]

Pretty sure i had it in mid Jan also. Was down for @ 3-4 days.. First time I've been sick in years..

[Reg]

I think I may have had it in early March. Was sick for a number of days, lost 10-15 pounds and had nagging cough ( not really bad in chest though) that still is not 100% gone.

After going back to work for the next week I felt like I had 5# weights hanging off each limb.

Flu shot was taken before Christmas. I think it may have been it but I had not travelled.

[RSBob]

Early March, two weeks of low fever and lethargy. Could have been allergies too.

[mattdavis11]

Early March. Flew to Chicago for a funeral, most of the close family ended up feeling ill a couple of days later. I felt a bit off, temporary mild fever, tired, watery eyes which ended up with a stye. Probably allergies.

I will not say I got it (if I did) from the Asian who sat down next to me on the transit bus at O'hare, because she had on the full garb. That was the point where I said "Oh Shyte", however. Not tested.

[spuggy]

I think we're going to know a lot more in a year or five than we do now. Both about the disease and the probable spread.

What about countries where the mortality rate has climbed way over seasonal averages, but these aren't being officially attributed to covid, because there were no tests done? Or the semi-random testing in San Jose that showed a likely infection rate in the county of more than 50x the official diagnosed figures at the time?

Ohio previously thought their first covid cases were in March. They've now realized there may have been cases in early/mid January.

The first person in Ohio known to be sick from the coronavirus outbreak is now suspected to be a local woman with an illness onset in January.

While the data is not definitive because the case was not confirmed while the person had an active infection, blood tests indicate there could have been six people in Ohio with coronavirus infections which is an earlier timeframe than Ohio’s first lab-confirmed coronavirus cases reported March 9.New antibody tests indicated that a Miami County woman in her 70s was sick with her illness onset estimated Jan. 7 and a Montgomery County woman in her 70s with an onset date around Jan. 13.

https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/new-data-indicates-first-ohio-coronavirus-cases-miami-valley/6ft6p28Nl13zP2qV37vTcK/
https://www.whio.com/home/coronavirus-was-miami-county-residents-case-january-first-reported-ohio/7SYKOSEVZNGTZJJBPP467D4X6M/

Even when tests are done, they're not 100%; a woman in Indiana managed to get an antigen test - came back negative. She later tested positive for antibodies.

https://www.theindychannel.com/news/coronavirus/antibody-test-finally-answers-womans-question-yes-she-had-covid-19

Researchers in Italy are looking into whether it there for months in 2019 before they realised

MILAN (Reuters) - Italian researchers are looking at whether a higher than usual number of cases of severe pneumonia and flu in Lombardy in the last quarter of 2019 may be a signal that the new coronavirus might have spread beyond China earlier than previously thought.

Adriano Decarli, an epidemiologist and medical statistics professor at the University of Milan, said there had been a “significant” increase in the number of people hospitalised for pneumonia and flu in the areas of Milan and Lodi between October and December last year.

He told Reuters he could not give exact figures but “hundreds” more people than usual had been taken to hospital in the last three months of 2019 in those areas - two of Lombardy’s worst hit cities - with pneumonia and flu-like symptoms, and some of those had died.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-italy-timing/italian-scientists-investigate-possible-earlier-emergence-of-coronavirus-idUKKBN21D2IT

[Eric 951]

Maybe--end of January at the mouse house in FL fever chills cough for the last (2) days of vacation and into the return home. wife sick with same symptoms plus terrible headache for a week following.

[jyl]

Quest serological (antibody) test only costs $135, you can find out.

[onewhippedpuppy]

I love the argument of “there’s no way you had it because it wasn’t detected until X date” people. Considering we live in a global economy and it’s now clear that this was circulating in China in Q4 of 2019. It looks very similar to the flu and was virtually unknown until early 2020, and doctors had no way to test for it. Pretty ignorant to deny that it couldn’t have been here earlier.

[smokintr6]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

I love the argument of “there’s no way you had it because it wasn’t detected until X date” people. Considering we live in a global economy and it’s now clear that this was circulating in China in Q4 of 2019. It looks very similar to the flu and was virtually unknown until early 2020, and doctors had no way to test for it. Pretty ignorant to deny that it couldn’t have been here earlier.

100%

Not going to find something by testing, before the tests exist.